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Marc Baptiste
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 4:11am | IP Logged | 1
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Joe,
I am more than open to hearing about these legitimate grievances. So, definitely do please list them. Because so far all we hear about is their right to keep and bear arms that no one is actually taking from them (people are killing each other at a record pace in this country), their right to hate and discriminate against gay people which the courts are letting them do, their right to not have an abortion, which no one ever forced them to do , their right NOT marry a person of the same sex, which never in the history of the world has happened, and their right to quote hateful passages from the Bible, which god knows we hear ad nauseam, etc.
IF "legitimate grievances" simply boils down to the fact that an increasing majority of Americans find these to be hateful and discriminatory well that doesn't count because the same First Amendment that lets them hate and discriminate against gay people, pro-choicer's, feminists, etc. for example, gives us the right to call them out for it.
Marc
Edited by Marc Baptiste on 16 November 2020 at 4:14am
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Kevin Brown
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 2
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"Legitimate grievances."
They're unhappy that all the black and brown people aren't kept in their place and their women ain't barefoot & pregnant.
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Brian Floyd
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 10:43am | IP Logged | 3
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And that everyone isn't allowed their God given right to have guns, even if its a psycho with a hair trigger or someone else mentally unstable and the gun is a fully automatic assault weapon. Because, after all, the solution is `more guns'.
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 11:18am | IP Logged | 4
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I am so peed off with listening to the 'grievances' of
Trump's supporters.
They usually amount to 'Sod you, I want to do what I want,
regardless of any damage that is done to anyone else'.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 11:44am | IP Logged | 5
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They’ve had the Big Orange Baby in the White House for four years, and they’ve gotten used to getting what they want—even if it’s actually just Trumplestiltskin TELLING them they’re getting what they want, without actually delivering.
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David Miller
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 2:20pm | IP Logged | 6
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The Million MAGA March came in short by around 990,000. Even though the permit attendance was estimated as 10,000, and every picture seems to show all of around a dozen people, right wingers are insisting they had up to 3 million. At least they're being consistent with their election math.
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Matt Hawes
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | 7
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David, the video footage I saw on CNN was probably not a million, but it was quite a bit more than a dozen... by a stretch. I don't mention this with any enthusiasm, either. It was actually depressing to see as many people there as I did in the coverage.
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David Miller
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | 8
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Yeah, I'm sure attendance was around 10k or so, and I agree it's still depressing, but some the pictures were hilarious self-owns.
BTW, it's funny that a bunch of white supremacists cribbed the name of their rally from Louis Farrakhan. Say what one will about the guy and especially his antisemitism, but his Million Man March has proven enduringly influential in the past 25 years.
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Kevin Brown
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 4:32pm | IP Logged | 9
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"The Million MAGA March."
Or as I call it, "the Million Maggot March".
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Matt Hawes
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | 10
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"...it's funny that a bunch of white supremacists cribbed the name of their rally from Louis Farrakhan..."
Well, it would be funny if it wasn't done to clearly mock the earlier march. MAGA intentionally used the name for mockery, I guarantee it. It's another "all lives matter" type of dig.
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David Miller
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| Posted: 16 November 2020 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | 11
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Eh, Farrakhan's a Trump guy anyway. They're welcome to each other.
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 17 November 2020 at 9:18am | IP Logged | 12
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I just read Joe Biden has just crossed the 79 million in the popular vote!
WOW.
-C!
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