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Matt Reed
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 3:34pm | IP Logged | 1
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Difference between 2016 and now is perspective. No one thought Trump had a chance in 2016, now everyone seems to think it’s a forgone conclusion that he will win. Whereas me saying what I wrote above would have been the norm in 2016, now it’s an outlier. Totally different perspectives leading to, I believe, a totally different outcome.
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 3:57pm | IP Logged | 2
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Goddamn, I hope you’re right
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John Byrne
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Chatting with a friend yesterday, who said how utterly appalled he was by the “undecided” voters. He quoted a standup comedian who said they were like a guy on a plane who is offered a meal choice of breast of chicken or shit sprinkled with broken glass. He asks how the chicken is prepared.
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Scott Gray
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | 4
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There are no "undecided" voters - there are just people who didn't want to admit to the pollsters that they're voting for a treasonous rapist.
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | 5
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Or they don’t want the racist, sexist bigots they socialize with to find out
they’re voting for a half-black, half-Indian woman?
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Scott Gray
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 6
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Most polling is a confidential, one-to-one conversation.
But in the scenario you're suggesting, they'd just say they're voting for Trump, avoid any tricky conversations with family members, and therefore wouldn't be listed as "undecided."
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 6:25pm | IP Logged | 7
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Most polling is a confidential.
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Wouldn't know... I've never spoken to a pollster. Never avoided it either.
-C!
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Kevin Brown
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | 8
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Most polling is a confidential, one-to-one conversation.
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Not exactly. It's how we see what candidate is supposedly "3 points" ahead.
Edited by Kevin Brown on 03 November 2024 at 10:48pm
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Brennan Voboril
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 9:48pm | IP Logged | 9
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A landslide? Seem awfully optimistic, or something...
We'll know soon.
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Peter Martin
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| Posted: 03 November 2024 at 11:38pm | IP Logged | 10
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I'm not sure it'll be a landslide, but I have firm hope for a Kamala win.
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Jason Czeskleba
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| Posted: 04 November 2024 at 1:16am | IP Logged | 11
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I have to say regardless of what happens, Harris has run a really great campaign. If she loses, it's not going to be because of anything she could have done differently.
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Trevor Krysak
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| Posted: 04 November 2024 at 4:55am | IP Logged | 12
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In all three Presidential races Trump has hit his ceiling at 46-47%. He's there now in the polling. There's nothing saying that is the ceiling for the Harris campaign. She might do quite well on Tuesday. I think she'll win but possibly with a weaker result than Biden.
IF she wins what will she face for the House and Senate. If both go Republican it's two years of rancor (not that it isn't anyways with them). If Trump wins with the House and Senate in Republican control it really could be problematic for many Americans.
I hope more people vote this year than ever before. I think America needs it.
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