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Paul Lloyd
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Alan Moore's interview on BBC Radio 4's Today programme:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/today/
(link on the left, about a third of the way down the page)
He makes it clear that he did intend this as pornography.
John, since it now seems clear that the characters are adults in the book, does this alter your opinion of it any way?
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Jason Fulton
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Alan Moore wrong? That's unpossible!
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David Miller
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Now that's I've looked at the book again, I'm not so sure it's devoid of childhood sexuality.
Spoiler: In the sixth
chapter, there's a flashback which shows Dorothy masturbating herself
to her first orgasm while she's caught in the tornado that takes her to
Oz. I wouldn't doubt that the rest of the book will include
retelling the other books in a sexual recontext.
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Luke Smyth
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Unlike you Matt and many others on this board I don't need to "Google" Alan Moore to get information about him. I have followed his work since the begining of his career and read pretty much all of his interviews.
Moore has consistently stated that all his comics work were conceived for comics, the medium of comics. He has no interest in Hollywood. If people want to make films of his work that is fine, as long as they don't use his name to promote them. So, for example, if you want to read V by Alan Moore pick up the comics collection, don't watch the film.
So Jacob was right and you were wrong. Unless of course you can prove otherwise with a quote from Moore not taken out of context.
Oh, and just out of curiousity Matt, if someone knew little of JB, would you recommend that they "Google" his name for the facts about him?
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Darren Taylor
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This all happened beneathe my radar...and i wished it had stayed that way:-(
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Matt Reed
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Find me a quote, Luke, that Moore "doesn't care". A direct quote, not a supposition made by the writer of an article. Moore saying "I don't care". Even if you could, taking your name off of a project and, recently, swearing that he'll not sell anything to Hollywood again, doesn't bespeak of a man who "doesn't care". That's poppycock, Luke. Your defense screams of a fan who's shocked, SHOCKED, I SAY!!!, that others don't share the same doting admiration of all things Moore.
Google is an internet search engine. I may not be a fan of much of Moore's work, but I'm smart enough to decipher information from a legitimate source from crap written by a non-legit source, be it fan or foe. So, yeah, a Google search of John Byrne will turn up this site on the first page, one about and run by the man himself. It also contains his recent interview for Modern Masters. I've got no problem telling someone to Google JB for info.
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Luke Smyth
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No Matt, you are the one that called him a hypocrite. That is the issue I take with you. Prove it.
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Your defense screams of a fan who's shocked, SHOCKED, I SAY!!!, that others don't share the same doting admiration of all things Moore.
That is disappointing Matt, I expect better of you. Yes I am a fan of his work, but I have no problem with others not sharing my taste. None, each to his own. I do however believe in fair play so while I have no time for and would take issue with people who spread untruths about JB, I also extend that courtesy to all others, Alan Moore included. I feel you called him a hypocrite unfairly and called you on it.
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Joe Zhang
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I recall reading Moore was actually quite angry with the producers of
the V adaptation for using his name in early promotional
interviews.
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John Byrne
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Moore has consistently stated that all his comics work were conceived for comics, the medium of comics. He has no interest in Hollywood. If people want to make films of his work that is fine, as long as they don't use his name to promote them. So, for example, if you want to read V by Alan Moore pick up the comics collection, don't watch the film.*** So more owns none of the material that has been brought to the screen? He did not have the power to simply say "No"?
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Trevor Giberson
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Apparently, he even refused the royalty money for these movie projects.
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Jacob P Secrest
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John Byrne wrote:
Moore has consistently stated that all his comics work were conceived for
comics, the medium of comics. He has no interest in Hollywood. If
people want to make films of his work that is fine, as long as they don't
use his name to promote them. So, for example, if you want to read V by
Alan Moore pick up the comics collection, don't watch the film.
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So more owns none of the material that has been brought to the screen?
He did not have the power to simply say "No |
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I seem to remember him saying that if Melinda Gebbie wanted to make a
Lost Girls movie, he wouldn't stand in her way, he just wouldn't want his
name on it, he feels that the movie in no way affects his comic, so
basically, he just doesn't care, and as long as they leave him alone, he'll
be happy leaving them alone.
I can't find a quote for that.
Not exactly in relation to what I said above, but this is also something of
interest for this conversation:
Suicide Girls Interview
"I’ve told the producer that I want nothing to do with this film. If they had
listened to me when I first said it, then I wouldn’t have had to spit poison
at the various media regarding the film. It could have just come out
without my name in it and there would have been no problem. I would
never have watched it and I would never have had to say anything nasty
about it."
I think that says it all.
Edited by Jacob P Secrest on 24 June 2006 at 1:07pm
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Luke Smyth
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So more owns none of the material that has been brought to the screen? He did not have the power to simply say "No"?
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He does own some of the work but then so too do his collaborators. If I were in his shoes and felt as he did I would be hard pressed to say no at the expense of my collaborators who have families and may need the money more than I. I'm not saying those are his reasons but they could be.
After all, he said no before with regard to work being reprinted at the expense of Alan Davis and that amongst other things cost him their friendship.
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