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Marc Baptiste
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Posted: 20 November 2020 at 11:33am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

James,

Unfortunately, yes.  The US Constitution specifically grants the power to appoint slates of electors to the Electoral College to a state's legislature alone - they don't even need a governor's signature as when they pass legislation. Currently all states delegate that power to a popular vote of the people of their state - but they don't HAVE to.

For good or ill, there a many such UN-democratic examples baked right into our constitution - the Founders of the country were NOT democrats!!

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When Joe says the world would be a better place without the Trump White House, I don't think it's fair to suggest he wants Trump to succeed in contesting the election.

If there is any good to this (and there may be none), Trump is akin to pouring a liquid into a system to find out where the leaks are. The man seems to have some kind of innate cunning to find weak spots. When the dust settles, the US needs some form of electoral reform and they should start by addressing these bits and pieces Trump has desperately tried to exploit. 
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Lose populace vote and lose the electoral college tally - & yet, in theory,
could remain president.

What a mess
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On a different but semi-related note, in that it shows where world
politics is moving:
The U.K. has a minister called Pritti Patel - she always looks a nasty
piece of work & has been accused of bullying the civil servants that
work in several of the departments she has run.
An enquiry has backed up those claims & states she broke the
ministerial code of conduct, which always means the minister loses
their job.

This current UK government, however, has pretty much said ‘We
haven’t personally witnessed any of this type of thing, so she stays &
we back her’, which led to the lead of the investigation to resign.

Yep, this current wave of ‘Just deny anything happened’ that has been
learned from people like Putin (missile? What missile? Oh, the one you
saw being launched? No, that didn’t exist, even if you have record of it
being fired) among others, is just sweeping across governments now.
They aren’t even trying to hide what they do.
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Posted: 20 November 2020 at 5:12pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Yep, James. It's sad, ugly and I don't how we put the toothpaste back in the tube.
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 9:42am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Unfortunately, yes.  The US Constitution specifically grants the power to appoint slates of electors to the Electoral College to a state's legislature alone - they don't even need a governor's signature as when they pass legislation. Currently all states delegate that power to a popular vote of the people of their state - but they don't HAVE to.

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Some states were considering passing a law that says the electors have to vote for the candidate their state picks, but I don't believe anything ever came of it.

Right now, if this happened and Trump remained President for a second term, it would blatant theft of the election. But of course the orange moron and his supporters would claim it to be justified, since the Democrats rigged the election.

I made a spelling error I had to correct, and it reminded me of something: I've seen right-wing assholes call the Democrats `Demoncrats' and 'Demokkkrats'. Funny, considering the GOP are definitely the evil ones. I suggest 'Republicants' and `Republicunts' for their nickname.

Long story I won't go into here, but something happened yesterday that affects people I know that adds fuel to the fire of my hatred of Republicans. 

*edited to add* Twitter will be handing over the Presidential account to Biden on Jan 20, even if Trump hasn't conceded. Hope that also means they'll auto-ban Trump. He only gets away with a lot of the things he says and does on there because he's the President. I bet the first Tweet he makes on a non-POTUS account will get him banned, anyway.





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Brian Miller
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 10:30am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

He only tweets from @realdonaldtrump anyway.
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 11:00am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

True, but he's afforded certain rights as President that will be gone. If you've noticed, they've started adding disclaimers to his Tweets when he posts bull. If he wasn't President, those posts would have either been removed altogether, or his account would have been shut down by now for trolling.

Come Jan 20th, he can't get away with his tantrums and lies on there any more.
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 11:26am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

I agree.

I don't normally give celebrities any more credence than anyone else
when it comes to politics, but actor Edward Norton made a series of
posts that I think has hit the nail square on the head. Here’s the
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Posted: 21 November 2020 at 1:51pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

The 10-ply bit made me chuckle.
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"Trump is akin to pouring a liquid into a system to find out where the leaks are."

Good point! I think I was coming around to thinking the same glass half full thing... but it's sadly doubtful things will get fixed, I remember Obama saying how the long lines for some people to vote in 2008 was something that needed to fixing. And before that talk of campaign finance reform which somehow mutated into super-pacs and corporate funded 'think tanks' needing freedom of speech rights enshrined. :^(
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Not only have PA and AZ dismissed the lawsuits with prejudice, but the AZ judge advised the secretary of state to file to get money back.
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