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Nathan Greno
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Me: "I just reread that story recently... I must have one of those reprints because it was missing! I forgot about that page!"

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Vinny: Was it the one with the Jackson Guice cover? Because that's the one I recall the page missing in.

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Yep.
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C.B. Cebulski is saying he thinks it is time for the next seven figure launch & he has an idea as to what it should be.

Please, please let it be this.
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I think that is very, very wishful thinking, sorry.
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The new launch is ROM!!! ;)
 
The seven figure launch is a thing of the past and it happened only due to variant covers and speculation. Now it's imposible with the loss of readers.

If finally Marvel publishes Elsewhen, it should be a big success and have excellent sales because of Byrne's fan base, newer readers' curiosity, the nostalgia factor and being a X-Men series.
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Leigh: C.B. Cebulski is saying he thinks it is time for the next seven figure launch & he has an idea as to what it should be.

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Isn't it ALWAYS the right time to do a "seven figure launch"? 
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Leigh - I know it is wishful thinking on my part. But I like to dream.
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JB has said he would release the pages online if they never see print, but to be honest I just can't see this project failing to be printed. There must be around 160+ pages by now and it would be a travesty if we don't at the very least see the work published in Artist Editions. Inking duty would be done via blue line copies so the pencils will remain intact. I'm sure there are legal and marketing considerations to be made to get this project off to the printer, but it would be a huge missed opportunity in comics if these pages and stories never see printed page. I would be buying multiple copies to give away and if IDW printed a pencils only Artist Edition along with a more traditional B&W comic Artist Edition I would be getting both. Almost a year in and I would say based on the very limited number of pages that have been released that JB still has it and most likely always will.
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It would be like Jack Kirby drawing a bunch of issues of Fantastic Four and Marvel not printing it.



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Since it's around the same time of year that Alpha Flight #1 was released in 1983, how bout a sneak peek at Mac and Heather from Elsewhen?

(I know it's a stretch but I was just missing them this week)
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The stammering and stalling and general dropping of the ball by Marvel is a great frustration. After all, they approached me, remember. I’m not even working for them and I feel myself sinking into the same old 5H17.

And remember, their first date for the release was MAY!!

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Frustration totally shared by the members of this forum, I confirm it !
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I would imagine Marvel would be chompin' at the bit for this - several issues already finished (plotted written and drawn!) by one of the greats with a built-in fan base, AND the X-men?!
I had heard stories about the old days where Marvel would hire someone because they were fast enough to meet deadlines - not even necessarily if you were any good. Maybe different priorities today?
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Unbelievable. They are THAT out of the loop.
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JB: The stammering and stalling and general dropping of the ball by Marvel is a great frustration. After all, they approached me, remember. I’m not even working for them and I feel myself sinking into the same old 5H17.

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Just curious... 

1) Has Marvel seen all of the issues you have drawn so far? If "yes", have you gotten any feedback on the pages?

2) Is IDW still a possibilty if Marvel passes on publishing?

3) Has there been any talk of inkers -- have any samples been done? Just wondering how far along things have gotten to making this book a reality... 

I'm very perplexed why Marvel wouldn't be moving forward on this, but I'm not in the comics biz... so maybe there are factors I don't understand.

Thank you for your answers.


  
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1) CB has seen them and said he loved them.

2) Marvel has squelched IDW doing it.

3) Nothing.

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This is crazy. I think Marvel is missing out on a big opportunity here. If promoted correctly,  this series could be huge. For most X-Men fans, the two best eras of the team was the Jim Lee era (which also coincides with the animated series), and the Byrne and Claremont era. Most of the classic X-men stories stem from those two periods. And the lineups of both those periods are also the best remembered. 

I hope it works out.


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Perhaps Marvel is looking for the pertect time.
For example, next year is the 40th Anniversary of the Dark Phoenix Saga, so Marvel may want to tie-in Elsewhen with the celebration or sell the series as the story that everybody has been waiting to see for 40 years!
Also the X-Men franchise has suffered a recent relaunch with a new Uncanny X-Men, a new X-Force, the return of Cyclops and Wolverine,... so perhaps Marvel didn't want a new title, Elsewhen, posibly eclipsing Uncanny X-Men in sales/popularity.

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If Marvel is waiting for anything,  one would think that JB would be kept in the loop, instead of leaving him hanging. 

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It could be timing that is causing them to hem and haw.

  • They just relaunched Uncanny X-Men, and X-Force in December. 
  • In January, they started doing a much hyped line wide alternate universe story that's running in several books until June
  • In July, they're gearing up for what looks to be Jonathan Hickman taking over the X-Books
  • They're doing this Major X miniseries that I think has been in the works for awhile now

It could be not just that they don't want to put out Elsewhen and have it take away from what's going on in the core titles, but also that they don't want to put Elsewhen out now, when they have a lot of other brand new stuff happening in the core books, and have it get lost in the middle of all this other stuff that they've been working towards for awhile now. 

Maybe they're trying to find the right spot in their publishing plan so the book gets a fair shot. At least, I hope that's the case.

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Dale, this has been stewing since AUGUST of last year, when they surely must have known what their game plan was for 2019. That was when MAY was suggested as the launch date—by them, not by me.

Serialization on the JBf—my original plan—is becoming more and more appealing.

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Marvel did just give the X-men to Hickman to get him to return, so maybe this is the hold up?

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I can see it bringing a lot of older fans back where many things (the starting over yet again, the going extreme, the multiple limited edition variations) wouldn't or would even be repelling... it was the Hidden Years that broke the ice for me again after mostly twenty years or so of hardly looking at comic books, and since then I checked out various other Marvel and DC series. I think it would be good reading for a younger reader as well, just like when the old Thunderbirds shows were re-run in England in the 1990s and set off a new wave of comics and toys  for young fans and videos and reprint books for older fans.
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Such a shame.  I was so hoping to see this in print.  Man, what is wrong with Marvel? 
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Hickman? Oh look, more #1s... lot's more I bet. Wow, this changes everything (said sarcastically). Like I said, "starting over yet again, multiple variations"... well, don't know about extreme... no giant guns and thighs anyway, but Professor X might be going radical.

"these new stories will redefine the X-Men and their place in the Marvel Universe" - C.B. Cebulski. Maybe I'm wrong and this House Of X and Power Of X will be really exciting to others?

Instead of continually asking people who buy comics what they want and then giving those ever smaller numbers that, maybe they should be asking the far greater numbers of people who don't buy comics (especially who once did) what they want?


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JB: Dale, this has been stewing since AUGUST of last year, when they surely must have known what their game plan was for 2019. That was when MAY was suggested as the launch date—by them, not by me. 

Serialization on the JBf—my original plan—is becoming more and more appealing.

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2 thoughts...

1) Would it be absurd to put "mustaches" on the characters and then have IDW publish it? 

2) Or perhaps give Marvel a deadline? A deal needs to be in place by the end of May or you're moving on?

Just trying to be helpful... sorry if the suggestions are annoying.


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My guess is that there has been push-back from whoever is 'guarding' the core X-books and that this project may be seen as a bit of a threat. Just a guess, but what really does Marvel have to lose from publishing something that has, at the very least, some guaranteed interest? 
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