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Moyer Hall
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So -- d'you suppose I will now have to suffer hearing and reading
everything I have been saying for the last 20 years about how comics
should be done being attributed to Morrison? sigh
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I was thinking the same thing Mr. Byrne!
What's really scary is Dan Didio's montly column in the back of some of
my current purchases. He mentioned he wanted to kill off Dick Grayson,
since he was redundant, and the outcry of the public stopped him from
doing it.
I just wonder, does Dan Didio get it? I'm somewhat confused, especially
with all the effort to restore Hal Jordon as Green Lantern. What's with the
trend of killing off or replacing a lot of the characters DC is doing (Blue
Beetle, Firestorm, Atom - to name a few)?
Why is what he is approving and directing any better from all the dreck
from the 90s?
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Matt Reed
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Agreed, Moyer. I think both Marvel and DC, rather than just retiring or plain not using a character, think that killing them is somehow better. I don't get it. Used to be that a death in comics meant something because we didn't see it happen all that often. I remember when Thunderbird died in X-Men shortly after Claremont/Cockrum introduced the character. It was shocking. He was dead, not a trick up their sleeves. The shock value has worn off. Death has no meaning except to kill off a character that now can't be used by anyone else should someone come along who can actually tell their story.
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Ted Pugliese
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I do NOT share Dan DiDio's vision...
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Glenn Greenberg
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I would have no interest in a DC Universe where Dick Grayson was dead
and Jason Todd was alive.
Thankfully, that particular status quo was averted.
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Jason Fulton
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Morrison still can't resist taking a shot at superhero costumes in a superhero comicbook.
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Matt Hawes
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QUOTE:
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He's not the redundant one! He's the original!
Keeping Jason Todd dead would've been better. I hate that character! He was a lame knock-off originally, and a total ass when his origin was revised a few years later.
And never mind the fact that Dick Grayson is not Jason Todd is not Tim Drake. They all have their own personalities.
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John Byrne
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Morrison still can't resist taking a shot at superhero costumes in a superhero comicbook.*** Waiting for that shoe to drop is why I simply cannot read Morrison's....... work.
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Matt Hawes
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It should be noted that in that page that Jason posted, Commissioner Gordon is recovering from being poisoned by the Joker.
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Matt Hawes
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QUOTE:
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Yeah, I'm not fond of that compulsion of his.
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Matt Reed
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Right, where everything is funny to him. I like Batman's response: "They don't usually get the chance."
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Eight panels in one single page?
It's very rare today! This makes me to think that BATMAN will not be one of those book you read in two minutes. Good.
Nobody touchs Dick Grayson! Having Jason Todd again is already enough bad (no, I don't hate Jason, but I'm very disappointed for his unuseful return).
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Jason Fulton
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I asked a buddy to find some instances of the 'GrantMorrisonSuperheroBanter101' dialogue in JLA, DOOM PATROL(pre-Vertigo), ANIMAL MAN, and MARVEL BOY (all runs I never bought). Sure enough, it shows up at least once in all of them (or so he said - he never did send those scans).
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