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Joe Zhang
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I think it's safe for me to say : we all want the real Frank Miller back.
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Matt Hawes
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Joe, time machines don't exist, so we are stuck with what we have now.
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Joe Zhang
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Ah, but Skrulls, THEY exist ! I have YouTube videos ! But they were taken down by Skrull agents.
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Warren Leonhardt
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Pretty unfortunate. Looks bad on everybody. I'm sure Frank Miller thought all was well in hand and this wouldn't go down this way. He was hired to do a job and he did it, perhaps the way he was ASKED to do it. At the very least, if it WAS his idea, I wonder if editorial went to sleep or what?
I guess they'll start using the printer's proofs now...why they stopped that is anyone's guess. I've never heard of any major entertainment company not doing a colour check, nor a prelim output to check quality before wide release.
Ah, comics.
Edited by Warren Leonhardt on 11 September 2008 at 11:43am
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Francesco Vanagolli
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Robert White
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This is exactly how I see ASB. Miller's toy series, where he is doing a parody of his Batman and his other works, without ties with the rest of the DC Universe and the other Batman titles. I see the series this way, and I love it. Anyway, the use of certain words has always made me feel uncomfortable with those comics where they were used. When I first read s*it or similars, I thought "these comics are for grown ups." And this is NOT what should happen when you're a child who wants to read superheroes.
Edited by Francesco Vanagolli on 11 September 2008 at 9:26am
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Flavio Sapha
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Miller writes for the artist.
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Flavio Sapha
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Check Spawn/Batman if you doubt it.
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Chris Abel
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If my retailer is to be believed, and I do know that guys like Geoff Johns and Jeph Loeb shop there, Jim Lee is less than enthused by the scripts he's gotten from Miller.
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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How sad that something like this happens. I must be one of the signs that we are getting to the breaking point, and maybe there's no return....
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William McCormick
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Miller should be ashamed. If you don't want to write the character correctly, don't write it at all.
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Al Cook
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You got that right, William.
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Brendan Howard
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This slippery slope started several issues ago:
What are you, dense? Are you retarded or something? Who the hell do you think I am? I'm the goddamn Batman.
If Frank Miller wants to do a Batman parody series, it should be done with a character like Flyingfoxman or Fledermausman or something. Everything I have heard about All-Star Batman and Robin depresses me.
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