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John Byrne
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I’ve seen a few complaints online to the effect that my current work is “old fashioned”.I find this a curious contrast to those who still insist my old stuff was better. Hmmm….
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Doug Centers
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| Posted: 20 January 2025 at 2:46pm | IP Logged | 2
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If by "old fashioned" they mean - classic, definitive, superior, quintessential, perfect, I agree.
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Mark McKay
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| Posted: 20 January 2025 at 2:51pm | IP Logged | 3
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Your old-fashioned old stuff was better?z
People make no sense, ignore them!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 20 January 2025 at 2:58pm | IP Logged | 4
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At the start of my career, I did just that. If I saw or heard some absurd comment about me, I ignored it. But leaving it unaddressed amounted, in some minds at least, to accepting it as true!
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Robert Bradley
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| Posted: 20 January 2025 at 3:40pm | IP Logged | 5
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New art to me is much more static, while "old school" art probably refers to art having more action and movement which you can trace back to Jack Kirby's style and Stan Lee's insistance that artists incorporate the action into their own work to make it more dramatic (for example - Kirby did breakdowns for Romita when he started out on Daredevil after coming over from the DC Romance books).
There have been claims that the secondary market for original art has changed how comics are drawn, but that doesn't explain the proliferation of talking heads that we see now. I would still rather see someone like Ron Frenz draw in the classic style than 95% of the other artists out there, but Marvel and DC don't seem interested in diving that type of artist much work anymore (with the exception of John Romita Jr.).
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Joe Smith
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It is a spoonful of sugar mixed with an elixir of freshly harvested ideas that
have been filtered through a mind curated and aged with a love for the
industry muddled with a dash of bitter truth with a cherry on top. Neat!
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Ron Grant
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| Posted: 20 January 2025 at 10:35pm | IP Logged | 7
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Nothing wrong with old fashioned
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Mark Haslett
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| Posted: 20 January 2025 at 10:39pm | IP Logged | 8
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Who exemplifies “current”?
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Byron Graham
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"With everything that's happening, the things that are about to come to light, people might just need a little old-fashioned" - Phil Coulson.
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ron bailey
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| Posted: 21 January 2025 at 12:05am | IP Logged | 10
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My sense is that there was a poor understanding of the affinity for classic characters in their vintage incarnations misunderstood as "old fashioned".
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Vinny Valenti
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I could use an Old Fashioned right about now......
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Joseph Vecchio
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At the start of my career, I did just that. If I saw or heard some absurd comment about me, I ignored it. But leaving it unaddressed amounted, in some minds at least, to accepting it as true!
The problem is, if you address it these days in a social media setting, you spend your entire time dealing with trolls who like nothing more than to continue to bait you just for the sake of it. I can understand why anyone would instinctively want to respond, but as I see it, it's just asking for trouble and time that could be better spent slamming your head against a brick wall repeatedly.
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