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Tim Cousar
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Posted: 23 April 2024 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

The legislators are definitely not acting in the best interests of the citizenry. Link
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John Byrne
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 12:19am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Worse and worse and worse.
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Rebecca Jansen
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 1:07am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Class, meet your new teacher Frank Castle?
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 1:33am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I hate my state
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Brian Floyd
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 2:07am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Same here! If I could afford to move to another state, I'd be out of here quick. 

When they passed the law allowing anyone to carry, I wasn't thrilled. The day after it went into effect, I saw a guy who was at most 20 walking down the street a block from my house wearing only sweatpants and sneakers packing a pistol in his waistband.

I can only imagine how this one is going to go over with parents, but that's what happens when gun nuts control the government. 


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James Woodcock
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 5:48am | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I really don’t get this thought process that the solution to guns is more
guns.
If only there were case studies where someone had said let’s not do that &
see what happens.
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 10:59am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

How long before some overworked teacher flips out and shoots a student?
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Brian Miller
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 11:11am | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Within the first year.

The state will make it mandatory for teachers to have guns in the
classrooms within five years.
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 11:49am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

And once a teacher shoots a student, it will be time to arm the students.

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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

There is a degree of belligerence in gun owners that is the most fundamental root of the problem. The whole “my cold, dead hands” mentality that seems present even in the most “reasonable” people. And let’s face it, the moment guns enter the equation, a big chunk of reason is abdicated.
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Casey Sager
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 2:48pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

It's amazing to me how basic gun control works in so many other "civilized" countries, yet for some reason it has no place in the USA.

The same people who are constantly whining about the need for voter ID are pefectly happy to allow conceal and carry without permit in several states. 
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Posted: 24 April 2024 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

For almost two centuries the Second Amendment was read very selectively. Most people took “the right to keep and bear arms” in isolation, ignoring the very significant verbiage around that phrase.

The opening clause, for example, presents the “security of a free state” as the justification for unchecked possession of “arms” by civilians. But the march of history trampled that concept with so many people choosing to pretend that it didn’t. I mean, how long has it been since the security of any free state has truly depended on armed civilians? When the Founding Fathers added the Second Amendment, the newly spawned nation had very little in the way of a real standing army, and anything beyond that was microscopic at best. (And, no, the Continental Army did not liberate any airports in New Jersey.)

With an invading professional army and navy storming our shore, we really did need rapid response from We the People.

But even the shapers of the Constitution were prescient enough to know that rough and tumble formation would solidify as the Nation matured. So they defined the Right to Bear Arms as being necessary in support of “well regulated militia(s)”—establishing another problem for the selective readers. For many insist that gun ownership is needed to protect the People from the government.

This kind of skips over the fact that only the government can “regulate”, so by setting themselves against the government, the gun nuts effectively VOID their protection under the Second Amendment..

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