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Brian Hughes
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As a kid, I never really took issue with comic characters lifting something like a building without suffering the real life consequences. I knew it was comics and part of the whole suspension of disbelief.
Then I saw Superman in 78. I was able to let a lot of things go, you have to. But the scene where Superman caught the Helicopter by the skid took me right out of the movie for a moment. Even at 12 years old, I knew that copter should have kept on falling with Superman holding just the skid.
When I read FF 249-250, I finally got an explanation about how that all worked. And it made so much sense. And later with Superman, it was the best explanation for his powers.
JB, was there a particular comic or movie moment that inspired your take on those powers?
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John Byrne
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It evolved slowly, until I came to the conclusion all of Superman’s powers had to be psi. Some complained that I was forcing “realism” into the character.
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Brian Hughes
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I honestly think there are many out there, that really didn't understand how those powers worked, no matter how clear you made it. Even recently, I had a discussion with someone who did not understand why Superman was weaker with amnesia on Apokolips.
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Jim Burdo
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Unfortunately, Scott Lobdell took it to far with Cannonball defeating Gladiator with one attack. Al Ewing had him defeated in SWORD by a telepathic attack against his confidence.
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John Byrne
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I was always extra happy when one of my favorite comic issues were 'double-sized'. JB, how far in advance did you have to work to pull that off?••• Apologies for missing this! Since I normally worked about three months ahead of Marvel’s schedule I worked at my usual pace.
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James Woodcock
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I’ll see your Superman skid (which I was ok with - it was Lois flying arms
outstretched with zero effort that did it for me), & raise you a Captain
America holding back a helicopter.
Which I was ok with, until he LET GO of the railing to get a better grip, but
the helicopter still failed to fly off. Granted it could be argued that he maybe
pulled the helicopter in so he could adjust his grip, but I don’t think that is
what we see. A single flaw in an otherwise flawless movie for me - in face
one of my top five Marvel movies.
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John Byrne
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You make me sad.
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Paul Wills
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Since I normally worked about three months ahead of Marvel’s schedule I worked at my usual pace.---------------------------------------------- That was very smart (and disciplined) on your part. I have heard many many stories of artists being stressed over deadlines and getting things out just in the nick of time to make copy. This was also true of strip artists like Bill Waterson and Berkeley Breathed (but never Charles Schulz!).
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John Byrne
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A story I got from Archie Goodwin:A writer came to Archie, his editor, saying he had a job he’d started in June that was due in September, but he needed three more months to get it done. “Okay,” said Archie. “Let’s say you started in March.” The point of the story is to build in extra time at the START of a job, not to crowd the deadlines at the end.
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I think FF #250 was the last comicbook I ever bought. Went out with a bang!
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John Byrne
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Hmm. Before my return with an eye toward turning pro, what would have been the last comic I bought?Most likely FANTASTIC FOUR 32. That’s the one where I guessed the identity of the “mystery villain” by page three, and thought yeah, maybe I’d been reading too long. (Amusing to note that my return to comics was FF 132, and my assumption of full command on the series began with 232.)
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JB, in your time at Marvel/DC, did you have to give editorial advance notice of what you intended to do with a title? Or did they just let you turn in whatever you were up to month by month?
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