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James Woodcock
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:42am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

What used to get me was the elasticity of late creators.



There were times a book would start to ship late, & that initial late shipping
was a week or so, then that became a month, then a few months & then
sometimes the book never arrived.



The ones that really do come to mind are:

Camelot 3000 where the last issues were unbelievably late (as a kid, 12
held a special place in my annoyance box)

Kevin Smith’s Daredevil - where he got peed off that they started to use
Bullseye when he had not finished his story - & showed no sign of ever
finishing it

Series where they just stopped mid flow like the Jon Favreau/Adi Granov
Iron Man.



It’s almost that having got away with something, the creator just seems to
say, ah well, can’t be bothered with this, & gives up.

& then goes on to work on other things - that really pisses me off.



Of course, David Gerrold wins all this hands down with his War against the
Chtorr books. Start a trilogy, give up after two books, restart years later
saying this time for real, expands the trilogy, publishes four books, including
reprints of books 1 & 2, gives up again, keeps promising the conclusion, but
never delivers. & it is now decades he’s been promising.



Makes George R Martin look like a rank amateur when it comes to delays.
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Brandon Frye
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Correct me if I am wrong JB, but wasn't this type of behavior from certain creators why you lost interest in using the Legend imprint?


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Peter Hicks
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

 The one that stood out for me was FANTASTIC FOUR #180.”
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For me it was Avengers 150.  It was a friggin anniversary issue to debut a new team lineup and they printed a reprint.   Even Marvel had to take a moment in the letters page to apologize and admit they had not been prioritizing a top grade consistent artist for a flag ship book like Avengers.  Marvel then continued to treat us to a rotating hodge podge of various artists for a about another year until George Perez settled in for a while.
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Michael Casselman
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 9:32pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

There were a slew of books from DC that were unscheduled reprints in 1977 and 1978, but I had assumed they were done due to the Blizzards those years that created snafus in delivery and distribution.
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Posted: 06 July 2022 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Keep in mind that the usual lead time in those days was about five months, so a blizzard in January should have no effect on a book that was started in September.

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Joe Smith
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Posted: 06 July 2022 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

I will admit that I am waiting constantly for books I love these days.
STRANGE ADVENTURES was quite sporadic, and HUMAN TARGET took a
two month break at #6 (of 12). Not being in ‘continuity’ it doesn’t hurt TOO
much. Also, I know Mitch had been sick during the pandemic. I guess what
I’m saying is I’m just grateful to have such cool books. The HUMAN TARGET
delay was so artist Greg Smallwood could get ‘caught up’. The rest of my
pull list has been as regular as bran.
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Jim Burdo
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 2:55am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Deadlines are a white supremacy value.
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Society is doomed.
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Steve Coates
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Is there a degree for "antiracism expert" and wouldn't it require a prerequisite of "racism expert"?
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Oliver Denker
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

When comics were sold through newsstands the pressure on publishers not to miss that deadline was certainly much greater than it is today with the comic book shops.
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

When the DSM shops first opened many fans started going there because they got their new shipments BEFORE the newsstands.

As the marketplace has shrunk it seems so many consumers have become dumber and more gullible.

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Joe Smith
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Great point JB. I remember my Dad taking me to “My Mother Threw Mine
Away” two towns over, and the owner used that as his main selling point to
13 yr old me. I would eventually ride my 5 speed over an hour to get there
some weeks with a battery powered boom box bungee corded to the back
playing Synchronicity by the Police.
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