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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7570
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 5:42am | IP Logged | 1
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What used to get me was the elasticity of late creators.
There were times a book would start to ship late, & that initial late shipping was a week or so, then that became a month, then a few months & then sometimes the book never arrived.
The ones that really do come to mind are:
Camelot 3000 where the last issues were unbelievably late (as a kid, 12 held a special place in my annoyance box)
Kevin Smith’s Daredevil - where he got peed off that they started to use Bullseye when he had not finished his story - & showed no sign of ever finishing it
Series where they just stopped mid flow like the Jon Favreau/Adi Granov Iron Man.
It’s almost that having got away with something, the creator just seems to say, ah well, can’t be bothered with this, & gives up.
& then goes on to work on other things - that really pisses me off.
Of course, David Gerrold wins all this hands down with his War against the Chtorr books. Start a trilogy, give up after two books, restart years later saying this time for real, expands the trilogy, publishes four books, including reprints of books 1 & 2, gives up again, keeps promising the conclusion, but never delivers. & it is now decades he’s been promising.
Makes George R Martin look like a rank amateur when it comes to delays.
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Brandon Frye Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 6:28pm | IP Logged | 2
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Correct me if I am wrong JB, but wasn't this type of behavior from certain creators why you lost interest in using the Legend imprint?
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 April 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1874
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | 3
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“ The one that stood out for me was FANTASTIC FOUR #180.”*************** For me it was Avengers 150. It was a friggin anniversary issue to debut a new team lineup and they printed a reprint. Even Marvel had to take a moment in the letters page to apologize and admit they had not been prioritizing a top grade consistent artist for a flag ship book like Avengers. Marvel then continued to treat us to a rotating hodge podge of various artists for a about another year until George Perez settled in for a while.
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Michael Casselman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 January 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1208
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Posted: 02 July 2022 at 9:32pm | IP Logged | 4
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There were a slew of books from DC that were unscheduled reprints in 1977 and 1978, but I had assumed they were done due to the Blizzards those years that created snafus in delivery and distribution.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 132064
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Posted: 06 July 2022 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | 5
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Keep in mind that the usual lead time in those days was about five months, so a blizzard in January should have no effect on a book that was started in September.
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 6587
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Posted: 06 July 2022 at 4:40pm | IP Logged | 6
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I will admit that I am waiting constantly for books I love these days. STRANGE ADVENTURES was quite sporadic, and HUMAN TARGET took a two month break at #6 (of 12). Not being in ‘continuity’ it doesn’t hurt TOO much. Also, I know Mitch had been sick during the pandemic. I guess what I’m saying is I’m just grateful to have such cool books. The HUMAN TARGET delay was so artist Greg Smallwood could get ‘caught up’. The rest of my pull list has been as regular as bran.
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Jim Burdo Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 April 2020 Location: United States Posts: 333
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 2:55am | IP Logged | 7
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Deadlines are a white supremacy value.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | 8
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Society is doomed.
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Steve Coates Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 November 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 730
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 2:29pm | IP Logged | 9
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Is there a degree for "antiracism expert" and wouldn't it require a prerequisite of "racism expert"?
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Oliver Denker Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | 10
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When comics were sold through newsstands the pressure on publishers not to miss that deadline was certainly much greater than it is today with the comic book shops.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | 11
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When the DSM shops first opened many fans started going there because they got their new shipments BEFORE the newsstands. As the marketplace has shrunk it seems so many consumers have become dumber and more gullible.
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 July 2022 at 4:17pm | IP Logged | 12
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Great point JB. I remember my Dad taking me to “My Mother Threw Mine Away” two towns over, and the owner used that as his main selling point to 13 yr old me. I would eventually ride my 5 speed over an hour to get there some weeks with a battery powered boom box bungee corded to the back playing Synchronicity by the Police.
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