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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 12:53pm | IP Logged | 1
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Andrew, is this the page you're thinking of? HULK #318. This image was scanned from HULK VISIONARIES: JOHN BYRNE:
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 1:43pm | IP Logged | 2
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....and let's not forget about the 3-toe Hulk.....
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 3:51pm | IP Logged | 3
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HULK #318. This image was scanned from HULK VISIONARIES: JOHN BYRNE: ++++++++++++
Little bit of a cheat, there, since JB's "definitive", Kirby-drawn Hulk face didn't come along until a few issues into the original six-issue run. The gray Hulk of the first issue had a less-distinctive face.
Still an awesome page, though!
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | 4
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That's him! Plus one closeup panel from issue five. +++++++++++
Yeah, that's the definitive Kirby Hulk. Brutish and massive, but without looking like a bodybuilder. A green, inhuman slab of rage!
Interesting to note that the TV series specifically went with a Neanderthal-ish beetle-brow, and the idea that Banner essentially regressed into a primitive-mutant version of himself during the transformation. Very much in line with the look Kirby gave him.
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Paul Lloyd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 4:04pm | IP Logged | 5
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Avengers: Ultron Forever provided an explanation for the three-toed Hulk. Apparently for a period after the gamma ray explosion that created him, his physical structure was still in flux.
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Doug Centers Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 5:46pm | IP Logged | 6
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I got a weekly dose of Kirby's Hulk, thanks to his rotation in those daily, Marvel sixties cartoons. This was in the early 70's even before I got my first comic.
His Hulk was inprinted early, and still the one I see when he's mentioned. I do have a soft spot for the Trimpe Hulk, as he was my comic book introduction to him.
BTW that Leader issue Greg posted was probably the only Ditko episode from those cartoons. Not positive though.
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | 7
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BTW that Leader issue Greg posted was probably the only Ditko episode from those cartoons. ++++++++++++++
Matt posted. Credit where credit is due!
Anyway, yeah, it's generally accepted that the Hulk's shifting physical appearance was the result of Banner still becoming acclimated to the gamma rays, and/or the Hulk's subsequent exposures to even more radiation (as in issue # 3).
And not, y'know, crazy Banner's multiple personalities manifesting themselves in different forms. Sigh.
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 6:22pm | IP Logged | 8
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...that AVENGERS: ULTRON FOREVER page is just weird and stupid. Feels more like a Marvel movie joke scene than something in-line and in-character with the Hulk era it's supposedly set in.
It's the equivalent of turning the Hulk-with-Banner's-face moment from INCREDIBLE HULK # 6 into a dumb joke, instead of a shock/horror moment. Because we can't ever take these things seriously, of course.
Edited by Greg Kirkman on 28 July 2018 at 12:33am
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Lars Sandmark Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 10:31pm | IP Logged | 9
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I still have my copy of the Fireside collected edition Matt posted, and while I love the painted cover by Bob Larkin, I don't like the visual of the Hulk being quite so big. I consider it a symbolic interpretation of the transformation even though some published issues show Hulk way too tall like that.
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Mike Norris Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 10:57pm | IP Logged | 10
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Hulk's looking a bit Zippy in that Ultron Forever panel.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 27 July 2018 at 11:32pm | IP Logged | 11
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Lars Sandmark wrote:
I still have my copy of the Fireside collected edition Matt posted, and while I love the painted cover by Bob Larkin, I don't like the visual of the Hulk being quite so big. I consider it a symbolic interpretation of the transformation even though some published issues show Hulk way too tall like that. |
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I get what you're saying, but I have a fondness for that image. I bought the book new 40 years ago (still have it as I scanned it this morning) and just seeing it triggers the eleven year old in me. Nostalgia is a funny thing.
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 July 2018 at 12:33am | IP Logged | 12
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I still have my copy of the Fireside collected edition Matt posted, and while I love the painted cover by Bob Larkin, I don't like the visual of the Hulk being quite so big. I consider it a symbolic interpretation of the transformation even though some published issues show Hulk way too tall like that.++++++++
I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that Larkin’s cover was probably inspired by Kirby’s cover for INCREDIBLE HULK # 1 (...which is also surely a symbolic image, since the Hulk was nowhere near that huge within the first issue proper).
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