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Jodi Moisan
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Posted: 23 July 2010 at 7:55am | IP Logged | 1  
Edit: I also have to agree with Jason, dogs are a great deterrent, and not the big nasty eat you alive ones. The small yappy, bark at absolutely anything types are perfect. Odds are the unsavory will hear the dog(s) and move on, fearing that the occupants might have awakened, or even neighbors might be looking.

Yeah and she is so much cooler than a gun!
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Koroush Ghazi
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Posted: 23 July 2010 at 8:01am | IP Logged | 2  
Again, dogs would be alright except "You can take my dog from my cold, dead hands" just doesn't sound right. Sorry, only guns will work in making this phrase sound suitably tough.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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What we may be overlooking here, guys, is that a regular handgun is not very effective in dealing with zombies. They'll just shrug those bullets off and eat your family's brains.

You need a good solid shotgun that'll blow their legs of, possibly some phosphorus grenades or a flamethrower. Definitely grenades.

I think some heavy duty army issue automatic rifles might be good for dealing with zombies, too.

And a dog won't help with Zombies. They'll just eat your dog's brain and turn him into a zombie dog. An amoral, vicious, mindless eating machine. (Or a cat. Same difference).

I want my home to be safe from zombies. After all, isn't that what the founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the 2nd amendment?

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Posted: 23 July 2010 at 9:16am | IP Logged | 4  
Another (presumably) legally purchased handgun is now in the hands of criminals.  How could she not have time to use it against the robbers?
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Andy Williams
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Posted: 23 July 2010 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 5  
Scott,
Have you been paying attention at all?
IF you are pro-gun you are not allowed to present a hypothetical.  Should you be so bold as to break that rule, you will almost always, upon firing your hypothetical gun, miss your hypothetical target.  Your hypothetical bullet will almost always pierce your hypothetical wall, pass through the hypothetical brick or wood veneer of your hypothetical home, pass through the hypothetical brick or wood veneer of your hypothetical neighbor's hypothetical home and strike his/her hypothetical child.  You could live in the middle of the Sahara and if you fired a gun in self-defense you'd kill an innocent who happened to be passing by on camel back.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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But isn't that precisely what the statistics tell us? That the guns are more likely to kill or injure non-criminals?
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Al Cook
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Posted: 23 July 2010 at 10:35am | IP Logged | 7  
That's what the stats say.

Though the camel comment was just plain stupid.
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Brad Krawchuk
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Posted: 23 July 2010 at 10:35am | IP Logged | 8  
Andy - 

Don't be a dick. (Andy Dick, ha!)

Seriously, the ENTIRE REASON for owning a gun is several giant hypotheticals... from someone actually breaking in, to that person actually being there with intent to harm, to that person themselves not having a gun, to you or Scott actually being able to reach and load your gun after being jolted awake before the rapist/serial murderer gets to you... 

The entire scenario is one GIANT WEB of "what if?" What if you don't get the perfect shot off? What if the guy gets to you while you're still sleeping and gets your gun? What if he struggles for your gun and shoots you? 

Andy, the fact that gun owners are so paranoid and so focussed on the one perfect scenario where they not only need to use their guns, but they are able to without any difficulties at all, is ludicrous. 

You'll wake up as soon as the child murdering maniac gets into the house with enough time to get to your gun? In the One Perfect Scenario, sure! You can wake up from a deep sleep, determine there's an intruder (and not just one of the kids making himself a sandwich), get your gun, and carefully aim it at the door before calling out to make sure it's not one of the kids? In the One Perfect Scenario, sure!

So any of the SEVEN BILLION things that could potentially go wrong are purely hypotheticals, because the dozen or so things you need to go ABSOLUTELY PERFECTLY RIGHT aren't just as hypothetical?
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You hit the nail on the head, there Brad.  Gun ownership for home protection is a strange combination of paranoia coupled with wishful thinking.

I guess I consider myself fortunate for not living my life in such a perpetual state of fear.  Truth be told, I operate on just the opposite assumption -- that statistically, it's very unlikely that something bad is going to happen to me.  That I can go in the ocean and not be eaten by a shark.  That I can go for a walk at night without encountering someone who's going to mug and murder me.  And that I don't need to keep a dangerous weapon to protect myself from some hypothetical marauder.
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Zombies, however ...

You just know there's going to be a Zombie Apocalypse, and it's happening soon. Guaranteed. You've got to admit that.

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Knut that is conjecture. The vampires could take control before the zombies organize 
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Brad Krawchuk
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Posted: 23 July 2010 at 11:43am | IP Logged | 12  
Guys, if zombies take over, guns should STILL be a last resort. Shooting ONE could attract hundreds or thousands. 

Better to kill them without a loud bang, with clubs, swords, axes, etc to the head. Unless you're already surrounded, guns just GET you surrounded because they know someone's alive in that direction!
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