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Jesus Garcia
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I was going to respond by saying that the two versions look like they were done by different artists -- when it struck me that they were done, INDEED, by different artists.
The absence of Marvel Girl in the sketch is very interesting.
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John Byrne
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Up yer arse, Chaykin!!
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Funny you should say that. As I was working on this piece, I kept thinking
"This is exactly what Howard was talking about!"
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John, did you try and replicate Terry Austin's inks?
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As much as possible, given the different tools.
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Paul Greer
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In the original cover they look ready to kick Dark Phoenix's ass. (Which makes for a cool cover.) In your more recent sketchbook take they are showing the anquish they would feel over watching someone close to them turn evil. (Which makes for a more realistic scene.)
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John Byrne
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The absence of Marvel Girl in the sketch is very interesting.
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ARGH!!! Being in a sketchbook doesn't make that drawing a "sketch"!!!
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Flavio Sapha
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My favorite iteration of the battle in the Blue Area is this:
Something about Jean being doomed that moves me in this shot.
(and may the guy who plastered that Watcher in the corner box burn in hell!)
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Joe Smith
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| Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:32am | IP Logged | 6
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you REALLY replicated TA's inks.
seriously insane work, JB.
kudos.
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Peter Martin
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Sorry to bring it down to this level, but that last picture of Jean made me start pondering about how the 1/6th gravity of the moon should affect her breasts...
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John Byrne
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Two Stories:
First, there is a Moment that goes with this piece, as with every time I draw
the Blue Area on the Moon. I go back to the kid who bought FF 13, and try
to imagine what would happen if I could step back thru time and tell him
that one day he would "visit" that mysterious place himself -- several times!
Second - I have a vivid memory of working on the original issue in which
this story appeared, X-MEN 137. I used to take a break at lunch and stroll
over to the downtown shopping area in Calgary, the main stores
interconnected by Plus15 walkways*, a system my Father in fact pioneered
in his job as head of Zoning for the City. The week I was working on 137,
the very day I did the pages where the X-Men arrive in the Blue Area, I met
a friend for lunch, and as we strolled she asked me, as she often did "Where
are you today?" Meaning, what exotic locale are you drawing in your comics?
"Today I am on the Moon," I said, in a voice that was perhaps a little too
loud for the accoustics of the walkway we were passing thru at that
moment. Several passersby turned to give me very odd looks!
*Plus15s are those elevated, enclosed walkways you see almost everywhere
these days. They take their name from being situated, usually, 15 feet or
more above street level.
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John Byrne
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Sorry to bring it down to this level, but that last picture of Jean made me
start pondering about how the 1/6th gravity of the moon should affect her
breasts...
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In one of his later stories (I think it was THE GODS THEMSELVES) Isaac
Asimov gave us a scene set on a Moon colony, where a woman tells one of
fellow workers that a visiting Earthman with whom she had had lunch could
not seem to take his eyes off her name tag. At least, she says, she thinks it
was her name tag that so fascinated him, tho she is aware that the more
Puritanical attitudes prevalent on Earth at the time might not have prepared
him for her semi-transparent blouse and no bra.
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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Nice recreation!
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Christos Seros
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| Posted: 17 October 2008 at 8:45am | IP Logged | 11
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Bigger:
http://imgboot.com/images/bchrys/xmenphoenixuntoldstory.jpg
Edited by Christos Seros on 28 February 2009 at 1:49pm
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Brad Hague
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The original Phoenix cover has more energy. I especially like the way Phoenix, Colossus and Storm are protrayed.
The new reimagining that was done in 2006 by JB has more emotion protrayed by the characters. It presents the X-Men as subdued, imploring the Phoenix to refrain from going down the path she is on. Especially moving are Cyclops and the Beast.
I would try to refrain from saying one is better than the other, although I am sure that there are plenty of opinions about them. They DO look like they are done by different artists, which is a compliment to the abilities of our gracious host.
I will say this: The original looks more like the Kirby/Buscema old Marvel style of action (as best demonstrated in John Buscema's "Learn to draw comics the Marvel Way" which I still have a copy of somewhere around here) whereas the newer one looks more like a product of the last 15 years of "realistic" action trend seen in comics lately.
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