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Trevor Krysak
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Posted: 05 July 2007 at 3:03pm | IP Logged | 1  

How about Harry Potter fans then? They use the internet and get together to enjoy the books. Plenty of popularity there. I recall reading how the book became a huge success from kids talking about it at school. The word spread quickly. It became hugely popular. Now it's kids of all ages who read and enjoy it.
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Ed Love
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I think it's just comics are now at the place where they have become
almost as mainstream as other entertainment media. You've always had
reading clubs and book clubs discussing the best-sellers, magazines
looking into the lives of celebrities and people constantly gossiping over
the latest tidbit and before comics were on the fringe, it was your science
fiction and pulps, it's what lead to Siegel and Shuster getting together in
the first place, collaborating on fanzines. And you had Roy Thomas and
Jerry Bails doing the same in the 60's. The internet just allows even more
people to participate and more immediacy from further away but is it
truly any different than what teens have long done while talking about
their favorite music and musicians or your average sports fan who can tell
you about salaries, statistics, where they played in college, all the while
trashing their friends' lame favorites?
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The comparison is insulting.

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The analogy being made was to backburning, not firefighters. I'm fairly sure
fire is unable to be insulted. Unless it's sentient fire.
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Mike Thorn
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The comparison is insulting.

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The analogy being made was to backburning, not firefighters. I'm fairly sure
fire is unable to be insulted. Unless it's sentient fire.

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I wasn't sure what the analogy was. Fighting fans with fans or something.


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John Wyatt
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Posted: 05 July 2007 at 3:14pm | IP Logged | 5  

Fans only gather at stadiums if they live close enough to a stadium to get to a game.  There is a rich history of stories about kids who could only follow teams like the Yankees over the radio or on TV because they lived nowhere near Yankee Stadium (or any MLB stadium) or couldn't afford to go.  For those people, making a road trip to go to a game would be akin to going to a comics convention.
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I wasn't sure what the analogy was. Fighting fans with fans or something.

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I think that's football matches in Europe.
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Mike Thorn
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Posted: 05 July 2007 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | 7  

Okay, music fans. Going to concerts being like going to a convention. The metal boards I go to are pretty rough, at least as bad as comic forums can be. But if the art/music/player can't survive criticism from the masses of fandom, maybe it deserves to go. 
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Fans abandoning movie houses in favor of watching the dvd at home, is not so great for the movie business. A group dynamic traded for an isolated one. Online forums devoted to movies can be bad or good, depending on the buzz they build, or kill. People who make and market movies have to deal with the changes in the market, so comic creators should too.
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•One of the questions I like least, when I see it at the top of a new thread
is "Is Thus-and-Such worth getting?" Once upon a time, this question
could only be asked of oneself, and it was up to oneself to make the call.
Shall I pick up this new book called GREEN LANTERN? I don't know the
character. I sort of recognize the artist. 10¢ is a lot of money… Now, ask
that question and get 400 posts overselling or shredding the product.

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This one is done by me for a very good reason: I don't live near a comic
book store and I have to order my books online. I would love to glance
through the book, read a page or two, and see if I like the art, but I can't.

I have gained some very good knowledge about a comic book from
asking this question. Thanks!
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I'm kind of in the boat that I enjoy talking about the creative process behind comics, which includes talking about characters and what does or doesn't "make them work". This forum's one of few places where I never think folks are chiming in merely to bitch or criticize, and I have the same discussions in the real world with real people, about comics and movies. But mostly it's related to learning all I can about the process, and the histories of characters/creators that makes it worthwhile.

It's when people start squawking over a character's specific meaning, attributing politics of any kind onto a character, and thus ignoring the adventure/entertainment aspect that used to be paramount when making comics AND movies, as popular entertainment without demeaning the audience, that I realize popular entertainment is as dead as Abraham Lincoln. There was an ART to producing entertainment, at one point, across the board in all media. Not now.

Still, as far as this forum goes, the pleasure of finding someone else who thinks the 3D Man or GI Robot is cool as a moose is somehow, I don't know, verifying that these characters are not dead, culturally. I mean from Superman on down. Somewhere there's a snot-nosed kid tracing Jack Kirby Captain America panels. This is the most hopeful thing I will ever say about anything, but maybe that kid will be the EIC who understands comic book language, the art of entertainment, and coaches it to a culture to be understood the way the culture understands porn and conspiracy and terrorism. Only it'll be good entertaining comics of quality, made by quality people.*

*By the way, that's the secret to any creative endeavor...get quality creators on the project. 97 percent of the time, quality begets quality. That's what Hollywood used to do ALL THE TIME before the Studios collapsed into talentless entropy.

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I never thought about what Stan and Jack were making off FANTASTIC FOUR. It was not even remotely a part of my interest, of why I was reading the comics.

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Only comes into my head when I read something REALLY bad i.e. are they paying these guys?!
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i never had that "Is Thus-and-Such worth getting?" simply because i bought only marvel anyway, & so did most of my mates...

but back then, a "stunt" was so rare that stuff like secret wars actually felt like a major event in my little head
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