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Michael Roberts
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His opposition would LOVE for him restore the dignity because then they could freely direct the narrative without his interference. He is using Social media to get his word out.
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No, we’d just like someone who does a better job of lying, so that we won’t have to feel like the country has gone insane.
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Dave Phelps
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Thomas Woods wrote:
| He may have eroded the dignity of the Office, but you have to admit his tactics throughout his election and after (so far) have been very effective, it got him in office. |
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How are we defining "effective?" While getting the job is certainly an accomplishment (only 44 people ever have), it's not like the job ends there.
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I think his allies are far more eager for him to stop acting like a buffoon than his opponents.
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| There is no way those other Republicans could have withstood the onslaught by tuning the other cheek. |
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For one thing, that ignores how much of "the onslaught" is caused by Twitter rants, mouthing off at rallies and telling provable falsehoods. For another, yes he gets a lot of negative press, but how much of it is underserved?
Edited by Dave Phelps on 04 June 2018 at 4:50pm
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Thomas Woods
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Is it intentional that there is no political forum?
I didn't want to make a new post for this so wanted to
post here
Dennis Rodman
playing a role at the Singapore Summit
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Charles Valderrama
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The thought of two people like Trump and Kim Jong Un having a sit down over nuclear weapons is a bit terrifying.... Trump is clinging to the notion that only he can make a deal. He will twist whatever happens to make it sound to his base like he's pulled off yet another victory.
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 06 June 2018 at 4:22pm | IP Logged | 5
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Given his volatility and knack for saying the wrong thing, for example he just said to Canadian PM Trudeau "didn't you guy's burn down the white house?", I'm really not sure how to see Trump as a good choice for something like this. Maybe in North Korea bizarro logic rules?
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James Johnson
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This....
You can't make this shit up.......
The more scarier thought is that folks believe this lie.
Edited by James Johnson on 06 June 2018 at 4:31pm
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Rebecca Jansen
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It's scary that Dennis Rodman seems like a much more stable and thoughtful moderating presence. I would have to agree he is though.
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Peter Martin
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The outright lying is a real issue. I can understand putting a spin on things, or not keeping election promises. I could even tolerate making an election promise of which there was never any intention to go through with it (though that is highly sketchy behaviour), but as a sitting President, to be telling outright lies to try and alter voters behaviour is plain wrong.
To wit, today going in to the G7 meeting, Trump was asked about children being separated from their parents at immigration detention centres. "I hate it", he said, "but that's a Democrat bill that we're enforcing."
Now, is there a law that requires children to be separated from their parents in such a situation? This is a policy introduced by Trump's administration.
Edited by Peter Martin on 08 June 2018 at 8:28am
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Trevor Smith
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Speaking of acting presidential, witness two responses
to the death of Anthony Bourdain:
"I enjoyed his show. He was quite a character."
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"Low plastic stool, cheap but delicious noodles, cold
Hanoi beer.' This is how I'll remember Tony. He taught
us about food -- but more importantly, about its
ability to bring us together. To make us a little less
afraid of the unknown. We'll miss him."
Now see if you can guess which one came from Trump and
which from Barack Obama. This may be a small matter,
but could the difference between these two men be
summed up any more clearly?
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Peter Martin
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And now we have the G7 meeting ending in rancour.
Trump says Canada is charging massive tariffs to US farmers. When it comes to milk, this is true. And the US has no agreement with Canada to limit tariffs on milk.
Trump is charging tariffs on Canadian imports of Steel and Aluminium. This goes against that which is written into US law as part of the NAFTA agreement.
The way in which Trump is trying to circumvent this law is by saying this is a matter of National Security.
Which is to say, the 2 million tons of Canadian Aluminum that is imported each year to meet the US' needs of 6 million tons is a security threat.
I honestly say, every other country should play this claim out and refuse to import these threats to US security , and see how they fair.
Edited by Peter Martin on 09 June 2018 at 9:09pm
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Rebecca Jansen
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What if Trump logic is still logic and Trump facts are still facts? Trump preparation is he's been preparing all his life after all. :^(
Slip slide and away...
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Robbie Parry
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Everything about that conference, from 45's body language to his increasingly-inane tweets, reminded me of a toddler. He even sits like a sulky toddler.
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