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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 13 June 2024 at 11:55am | IP Logged | 1
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Batteries and sharks. Batteries and sharks…
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 13 June 2024 at 3:43pm | IP Logged | 2
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Gotta hand it to Republicans, their coordinated misinformation campaign has been thoroughly successful. Even much of the hated liberal media uncritically repeats such deceptive framing.
******* Not thoroughly successful...yet. Still, going into the general election much of the worrying will be how much misinformation will effect the outcome in November. LINK
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Rebecca Jansen
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Yep, lapping it all up yet again, giving the inch to "be fair", helping spread the mud and the narrative, that mile taken again, the lie repeated enough times to sink in and gain reality for some probably too busy to sort much out even when not in a time of overload.
But be comforted that some will say this is all standard balanced and equal reportage operating as it always has, except it isn't, at least not from a lot of "news" providers.
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 13 June 2024 at 5:01pm
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Brian Floyd
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The GOP is apparently trying to come up with a plan to make it possible for Trump to pardon himself on state charges, if he's elected.
Let that sink in.
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Richard Stevens
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| Posted: 13 June 2024 at 10:59pm | IP Logged | 5
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hear me out: what if we tricked him into pivoting to running for governor of NY instead so he could pardon himself?
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David Miller
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| Posted: 14 June 2024 at 12:48am | IP Logged | 6
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Brian Floyd wrote:
| The GOP is apparently trying to come up with a plan to make it possible for Trump to pardon himself on state charges, if he's elected. |
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I'm a little surprised that Trump hasn't said anything about currently having pardon power by virtual of being Rightful President.
The GOP doesn't have to do anything. If Trump is elected, he can just go ahead and declare himself pardoned of state charges, very serious Republicans legal scholars will very seriously agree that it's what the founders intended, and the media will obediently cover the issue as if it was an actual controversy. By the time it becomes a legal issue again after Trump leaves office, if he leaves office, as we have seen even spurious legal novelties can be litigated for years.
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Brian Floyd
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| Posted: 14 June 2024 at 3:40am | IP Logged | 7
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The GOP wouldn't get enough votes to change the law to grant Trump state pardon power. Because the Democrats would vote against it and anyone else who isn't MAGA would likely do the same.
But I wouldn't put it past Trump arrogantly trying to do it anyway, and that could backfire: He'd be admitting guilt by trying to pardon himself, so why would there even be a need for more trials? Just go straight to the sentencing phase, and good luck trying to appeal.
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ron bailey
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Hmmm.I'm beginning to see why there was a moratorium imposed on Trump threads for so long.
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John Byrne
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No, you’re not.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 14 June 2024 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 10
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I'm a little surprised that Trump hasn't said anything about currently having pardon power by virtual of being Rightful President••• Curious dichotomy. If Trumf is president, he cannot run in this election. By running, he is acknowledging that he lost in 2020.
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Michael Penn
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Republicans got together with Trump, including his erstwhile frenemy, Mitch McConnell.
QUOTE:
| “We had a really positive meeting. He and I got a chance to talk a little bit, shook hands a few times,” McConnell told reporters after the meeting. “It was an entirely positive meeting,” he added. “I can’t think of anything out of it to tell you that was negative.” |
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♪ Love is in the air... ♫
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 14 June 2024 at 1:53pm | IP Logged | 12
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Maybe Trumf’s battery will run out before November. Then he can choose Elvis as his running mate.
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