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Bill Dowling
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| Posted: 21 October 2018 at 7:04am | IP Logged | 1
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It seems to me if someone thinks JB’s X-Men work was perfect and his Wonder Woman work was sketchy, that person is a Terry Austin fan, not a JB fan.
I’ve always liked more rough-looking inks on JB’s art than a more polished line.
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Wallace Sellars
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| Posted: 21 October 2018 at 8:37am | IP Logged | 2
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As much as I like JB's UNCANNY X-MEN run, and love his FANTASTIC FOUR work, his art on books like COLD WAR and DOOMSDAY.1 is waaay better to my eyes than the older work. Heck, there's a pretty big jump in skill between the FF and JBNM!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 21 October 2018 at 9:08am | IP Logged | 3
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Heck, there's a pretty big jump in skill between the FF and JBNM!•• Not so much a jump in skill as a drop in anxiety!
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Mike Baswell
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| Posted: 21 October 2018 at 9:57am | IP Logged | 4
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I confess that I was one of those that had a disconnect between quality of art and quality of printing at one time. Especially sad since I work in print now, but back then I couldn't understand why I'd see JB's art of the same vintage and some would blow me away and some would leave me flat. Little did I realize, if I'd seen the originals for both examples, they were both brilliant. Now I know better.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 21 October 2018 at 10:54am | IP Logged | 5
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Probably the worst period for that was the industry’s brief flirtation with the so-called “flexi-graphic” process, fitting the old letterpress printers with PLASTIC plates—which softened as the run got longer. Not a few letters castigating me for the “wiggly lines” I was drawing!
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Matt Hawes
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Flexi-graphic printing... UGH!!! I remember those wiggly lines, garish inks, and splotches on the pages. So glad that is over.
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Jeffrey Rice
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I see people posting about their love of JB's work on X-Men and crediting Austin. They really are Austin fans. Which is fine, but the follow on knock at JB's later work is confusing. I agree with the others here that the art improved, but more importantly, the writing was even better.
This thread is an excellent example. A rough pencil of a page with Wolverine slashing Sauron, and a full issue around that scene flowed.
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John Byrne
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...a rough pencil...••• Again, finished pencils, not a “rough”.
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Matt Hawes
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| Posted: 21 October 2018 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 9
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Jeffrey Rice wrote:
| ...I see people posting about their love of JB's work on X-Men and crediting Austin. They really are Austin fans.... |
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Or they are fans of both, the combination of JB and Terry Austin. That's how it is for me. However, I am just as much a fan of JB's art when inked by himself, or some others.
Edited by Matt Hawes on 21 October 2018 at 2:23pm
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Jeffrey Rice
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| Posted: 22 October 2018 at 12:35pm | IP Logged | 10
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Again, finished pencils, not a “rough”. | |
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Noted! Sorry for that.
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Paul Wills
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Yes, I did get a letter to SUPERMAN excoriating me for leaving out an incredibly important character—Beppo the Supermonkey.
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to think of all the great storylines you missed out on with that one...
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Manuel Soler
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Talking about leaving out an incredibly important character: I would have liked to see a post-Crisis Vartox by Byrne!Curiously, if I'm not wrong, one of the few (perhaps the only one?) relevant DC characters (he had his own individual Who's Who entry) that didn't appear during the Crisis. He was powerful enough to have been one of the heroes that fought the Anti-Monitor in the last issue (#12).
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