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Michael Penn
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| Posted: 09 November 2026 at 1:33pm | IP Logged | 1
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Just sharing a quick comparison of our past and our present...
"FDR knew that the history of the nation’s past is part of its charter for the future. Policies come and go. Leaders will pass from the stage. The enduring sail and compass of our nation is ‘We the people.’ When the American people are strong and confident, when their leaders hear their voices, America, whatever storms it might be weathering, will make it through." -- (Ronald Reagan)
"Just get out and vote. If you do that, we're going to win, and we're going to win big. And we're going to shove it up their ass." -- (Donald J. Trump)
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Mike Devlin
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Ergh.Still find it hard to believe the American people chose* to inflict this depraved and disgusting pig upon themselves.
*No not all of them, thankfully.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 09 November 2026 at 3:05pm | IP Logged | 3
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Trump managed to convince a lot of middle and lower class voters that he is “one of them”. How I do not know!Also, he rode—and continues to ride—a considerable wave of White fear. We must never lose sight of how fundamentally racist much of this country is.
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 09 November 2026 at 3:30pm | IP Logged | 4
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We must never lose sight of how fundamentally racist much of this country is.
**** Sadly true.
-C!
Edited by Charles Valderrama on 09 November 2026 at 3:31pm
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 10 November 2026 at 6:40am | IP Logged | 5
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The easiest thing in the world is to split people into us and them.
We will split along the most dubious of lines at any given point.
Galvanise that split, and you have yourself a rabble who will back you to the
point of their own self destruction, because you promised themselves
something different, while blaming others for how things are now.
We have seen this time and time again.
Usually done by people who indeed are anything but the people they are
galvanising.
What we are seeing in many parts of the world, are really gullible people
falling for this yet again.
And we are realising just how many gullible people there are.
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 10 November 2026 at 3:52pm | IP Logged | 6
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Heard Rachel Maddow telling Jon Stewart on his show what she would like to see Democrats implement immediately:
- Investigate and defund ICE - Impeach Pete Hegseth - Impeach Todd Blanche - Work on healthcare - Use the power of the purse to stop the Iran war. - Stop members of Congress from stock trading. - Stop federal contractors from making political donations.
Would doing those things hurt Democrats in the long run with voters?
-C!
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Joe Franklin
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If it means more taxes on the lower-/middle-class, then yes, the healthcare issue will hurt Democrats. If you add:- Tax the rich like they were taxed in the 50s
Then it's a different discussion. I would be interested in seeing the numbers on a 5-10% tax hike on those making $20m each year, individuals & corporations.
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Brian Hughes
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One of the things I have observed a lot of is how there is a segment of people who support Trump because he justifies poor behavior for them, be it racism, infidelity, lying or any of the other traits he has shown.
Many people on the right became more brazen with their open hostility towards other races after Trump won in 2016.
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Brian Miller
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Yes, Brian. I recall hearing the he “tells it like it is” so many times in that
initial run. He just gave people the ok to wear their bigotry on their sleeves
and not hide it.
Edited by Brian Miller on 10 November 2026 at 6:58pm
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Vinny Valenti
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The Michigan Senate race being one of the most blatant and recent examples.
Edited by Vinny Valenti on 10 November 2026 at 6:31pm
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 10 November 2026 at 7:58pm | IP Logged | 11
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Thankfully, bigotry & racism didn't prevail in the Midterms... this time.
Neither did Elon's huge donations!
-C!
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Brian Miller
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| Posted: 10 November 2026 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | 12
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Thankfully, bigotry & racism didn't prevail in the Midterms... this time.
*****
Be glad you’re not in TN. Both are alive and well here.
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