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Posted: 04 July 2025 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I’m just going to say, on his own site a while back, Shooter mentioned being pretty much forced to write Secret Wars because nobody else wanted to. Like nobody wanted to write a book that would be a guaranteed best-seller.

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Nobody wanted to write a TOY PROMOTION. Please remember that was all SECRET WARS was when Shooter took it on. He used his position as EiC to force it down the throats of all the other editorial offices and turn it into an EVENT. Something no one else would have been able to do.

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Posted: 04 July 2025 at 4:25pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

I just purchased and read the back issue drawn by you where the cover proudly stated “NOW MONTHLY!”   How could X-Men be upgraded from bimonthly to monthly, but still be in constant danger of cancellation?

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In those days, success or failure of a title was determined by the percentage of its print run that was sold. If sales dropped below 50%, the book would be axed.

UNCANNY X-MEN hovered just above that 50% cut-off, and Archie Goodwin, as EiC, understood the book had to go monthly to survive. But Dave Cockrum could not handle a monthly schedule, so Archie removed him from the book and brought in Terry Austin and me. *

A few issues later the book was successfully elevated to monthly status, and sales started a slow but steady climb.

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* Terry was actually the first Archie contacted. Impressed by our work on STAR LORD, Archie asked Terry if he would be interested in inking X-MEN if I could be hired to pencil.

Sadly, as I would learn decades later, at that point these maneuverings were going on behind Dave’s back.

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Posted: 04 July 2025 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

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Posted: 04 July 2025 at 6:41pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

The phrase “building on what others did before him” needs to be in there somewhere.
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Posted: 04 July 2025 at 7:47pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

If the statement of ownership figures in X-Men #110 & 120 are to be believed, paid distribution was below 50% for both years, and surprisingly the sales figures quoted in the latter issue seem to have been lower.  Does anyone know how long after publication it would have taken for the sales figures for a given issue to be known to the publisher?
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Posted: 04 July 2025 at 8:32pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

Issue #110 on-sale date was 1978-01-17 with a Cover Date of April. Which means it would have a shelf life of 2.5 to 3.0 months.. But it hardly matters what was sold, rather what the distributor(s) reported as sold to Marvel.

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