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Charles Valderrama
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Posted: 05 July 2025 at 10:17pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply
In regards to the Death of Phoenix story...I've enjoyed every time I've re-visited the storyline... if only Hollywood could get it right... it shouldn't be that hard... if they brought in the RIGHT consultants.

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Posted: 09 July 2025 at 11:47am | IP Logged | 2 post reply
According to William Goldman, in his highly informative book ADVENTURES IN THE SCREEN TRADE, when adapting from one format to another, changes MUST be made. Usually quite arbitrarily.

Perhaps nowhere is this more in evidence than THREE tries at Dark Phoenix.

(I’ve mentioned that knowing that third try was going to happen I rubbed my hands in Scrooge-like anticipation. As one of the creators the original story, I expected a big ol’ royalty check. Then it bombed so badly I half expected Marvel to send me a bill!)

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"Perhaps nowhere is this more in evidence than THREE tries at Dark Phoenix."
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For a second there I was thinking wait...three? I only count two. But then of course there's the 90es animated version*.

*Which I seem to remember gave Jean a plotline oddly close to what I read was the original planned ending to the Dark Phoenix Saga. Before the Editor in chief decided she needed a more severe punishment.
 
I've often wondered if that was deliberate move on the part of the animated shows creators. Or if it was just a coincidence resulting from cartoons of the time not being able to properly kill anyone off. (Even their Morph came back.) 
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Animators tend to follow their own path. At a con, before the show went into production, a small contingent approached to ask me the color of Storm’s uniform. “Shiny black,” I said, “with yellow trim.”

“Don’t you mean white?” they protested.

When the show came out, her costume was white.

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Posted: 10 July 2025 at 11:21pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply


Edited by Mark McKay on 10 July 2025 at 11:25pm
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Comics are full of colors that don’t exist in Nature. Unfortunately this has created generations of fans prepared to die on the hill of highlights being the actual color. (Sure, he’s called the Black Panther, but his suit is blue!)
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