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James Woodcock
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David wrote
Meanwhile, Neil Gaiman has conceded enough credible sexual assault
allegations through his lawyers to populate a class action lawsuit, but he’s
“affable” so fans are twisting themselves into knots in his defence.
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I read this yesterday with horror.
I’d heard something had gone wrong last year as Amazon were retooling
Good Omens, but it’s so much worse than anything I could have thought.
There seems to be a lot of writers out there who end up being exactly
who/what they write about.
Which also puts a difficult stance of the ‘Separate the artist from the art’
What if the art reflects the artist?
I’m going to struggle with Sandman after this.
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JB, certainly has a strong and original personality ; and strong defaults generally  are the price of the huge qualities of such people. It often generate both enemities and affection.  We also like him for his defaults, or at least look at it with an amused and indulgent eye, those of us that don't go mad over it, that is. But from this to being said to be "difficult to work with", some kind of extrapolation seems to be at work! There're anecdotes of conflicts that happened on such or such occasion, and certainly it is a profession in which strong personnalities (not just JB) are involved, but there's what happened and there's the way people tell the story, and most of those, most of us too, weren't there. 

Jim Shooter, lot of qualities and defaults both as an  editor and a writer, possibly as a man too.

Neil Gaiman, a talented writer, an important and enjoyable body of comics work and some good entertaining novels. But a person that appears now to be the exact opposite of the kind i thought he was. An insane, not sane in any way or healthy at all man, a disgusting and repulsive character if what we read yesterday is true. Way worse than what i thought when i first heard about some of it last summer. Probably a victim of a fucked up childhood at first, and a pervert in the end. At the very least, that's what it looks like! Yes, the filth of the man will make to me the work unreadable for a time and tainted from now on. I will make the difference between the work and the man, but i will nonetheless know what he is worth. I still have respect for the writer, i have none left for the person. Because i believe what the article says ; now it is time to let the law do its job, and probably psychatrists too.


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Rodrigo castellanos
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Meanwhile, Neil Gaiman has conceded enough credible sexual assault allegations through his lawyers to populate a class action lawsuit, but he’s “affable” so fans are twisting themselves into knots in his defence.

This probably deserves its own thread, btw.

That NYMag article was a brutal read. Much, much, worse than I thought. 

I agree he was very successful on putting an affable front that prevented this stuff from coming to the surface for decades but have to say I haven't seen much twisting in his defense after the article came out.

Pretty much indefensible. 


What if the art reflects the artist?

Art always reflects the artist in some way, IMHO.

I'm not going to pretend I knew about this before everyone else because I most definitely didn't but I do remember very clearly reading "Calliope" more than twenty years ago and going "Hmm, that was strange".

There's always signs.


I'm going to struggle with Sandman after this.

This may sound strange or contradictory but I don't think I will.

I have Lovecraft in my bookshelf, and lots of other "problematic" authors and that's not a problem to me. 

Was never a Gaiman fanboy, but I enjoyed and will continue to enjoy Sandman, will watch the second season if they air it (coin toss on that one, I think).

Had never read one of his novels up until a couple of months ago when I picked up a cheap copy of American Gods in London and I ended up enjoying it a great deal (great time to jump in the Gaiman bandwagon, I know!)


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