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John Byrne
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In my portrayal of Gladiator I experimented with some of the ideas for Superman that had been percolating in my mind for years, but I didn’t give any consideration to actually using them with Superman—especially after I used them on Gladiator!!
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Wallace Sellars
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All of the above.
And I know this borders on blasphemy, but… I didn’t much care for the 4th World stuff until JB got me interested in it.
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Jay Stark
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All you that mentioned FF characters are right on the mark...but you missed the best - H.E.R.B.I.E. !!!!!!
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Robert Bradley
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I'm tempted to say Fantastic Four, but I think JB just managed to return them to the Lee/Kirby/Sinnott glory days. Sue got a much needed makeover, but but nothing quite as drastic for Reed, Johnny or Ben.
I'm going to go with Iron Fist. Even though JB wasn't the writer for the title the visuals just made the character that much more appealing. The art seemed to be a little experimental at times (suchas with the multiple images in a panel) and really fresh compared to a lot of other books.
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Eric Jansen
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Skimming through this older thread, I was surprised not too many people said She-Hulk. Then, I came across a vote for her and whole-heartedly agreed...with myself!
I reiterate--John Byrne's She-Hulk is one of the best things to ever hit comics! It's probably my favorite series to re-read. While I always loved David Kraft and comics set in Los Angeles (my hometown), JB's take on her (with all due credit to Roger Stern) is fantastic and one of the very best examples of taking a concept/series that wasn't going anywhere and making it something endearing, engrossing, and long-lasting (her TV show WAS John Byrne's version).
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John Wickett
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I liked the idea of having Hippolyte as the golden age Wonder Woman, because it gave a WW back to the JSA. I think now DC is back to saying Diana has been around since WW2.
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John Byrne
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Admittedly less complicated.How did they let THAT happen??
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Brian ONeill
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JB definitely improved Superman(his two solo books in particular had been suffering through the first half of the 80s).Bringing back Jonathan and Martha saved us from any more examples of the tedious Cary Bates trope where Superman suffered from Peter Parker-esque guilt that he 'couldn't save Ma and Pa'.
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John Wickett
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"How did they let THAT happen??"
A lot of characters got reboots after the New 52 failed. They kept some new elements that people liked, jettisoned others in favor of classic continuity, and further tweaked others.
I think that's when they pushed Diana's first appearance back to the 40s, but it might have been after that. They seem to reboot on the fly now, whenever it suits the current creator.
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John Byrne
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You seem to have missed my point.
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John Wickett
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If you meant "how did they allow something to happen that made the origin less complicated?' then I would chalk it up to a rare instance of good judgment prompted by the exit of Dan Didio.
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Josh Goldberg
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"A lot of characters got reboots after the New 52 failed."**** How is it that the comic book industry made it from the late 1930s to the mid 1980s with, essentially, only one reboot: reimagining some Golden Age heroes for the Silver Age, during the late 1950s / early 1960s? But in the last forty years, there have been more reboots than you can shake a stick at.
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