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Jacob P Secrest
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Oh, I meant to put "a thirty cent a month apartment", whoops, brain
bubble.
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Richard Callaghan
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 QUOTE:
Oh, I meant to put "a thirty cent a month apartment", whoops, brain
bubble.

Shouldn't that be brain balloon?

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Jacob P Secrest
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No, it doesn't have a tail, it's self contained.

Edited by Jacob P Secrest on 22 September 2005 at 7:02pm
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Mig Da Silva
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Moral Relativism! Finally; out of the closet! It's time to:

a) release all murderers, rapists, and thieves.

and b) pay the same wage both to phone operators and neurosurgeons.

Difference does not exist!

Cease all sciences! Comparison weilds no results! No facts exist!

Hurray!

Let the alchohol flow and the rape ensue! For there's no absolutism; intelectually challenged french two bit sophists discovered!

Two hurrays!

Anarchy Incarnate!
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John Byrne
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Bring it down a notch, wouldja Mig?
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Francis Grey
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Yikes
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Tom Melly
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 Mig Da Silva wrote:

Moral Relativism! Finally; out of the closet! It's time to:

a) release all murderers, rapists, and thieves


IMHO this is a false presentation of MR - MR is merely the belief that morality is personal and subjective. In other words, people perform indefensible acts because they believe that the act is defensible. This does not make that act 'good' or defensible.

Anyway, I'm bowing out of this one - IMHO the underlying cause for most of the confusion on this thread is semantic, not epistemological.
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Darragh Greene
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Tom Melly: MR is merely the belief that morality is personal and
subjective.
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Morality by definition is precisely impersonal and objective because it
concerns actions per se not character; you're talking about ethical
relativism; please don't confuse the two.

Tom Melly: the underlying cause for most of the confusion on this thread
is semantic, not epistemological.
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In this case it was indeed semantic.
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John Mietus
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What Darragh said -- ethics are personal, morals are imposed.
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Simon Bucher-Jones
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I'm reminded of the set introductions to one of the games ("New Definitions")on the long running BBC radio 4 show "I'm sorry I haven't a clue" where Humph (Humphrey Littleton) the compair would careful expound something like....

"Many people continue to be troubled by the difference between imply and infer. But to those of us with a classical education the difference can be clearly outlined in a matter of moments. To imply is to convey meaning to a third party as a subtextual array within a perceived textual structure, whereas infer is some bint in a mink coat."

No doubt the scriptwriters could do a good job on 'ethics' and 'morals'.

Perhaps:-

"Ethics are the underlying maxims that determine choice within a society by an individual whereas 'morals' are what you get at the annual meeting of the Einstein, Capone and Jolson Impersonators Society".

Simon BJ

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John Byrne
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What Darragh said -- ethics are personal, morals
are imposed.

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And both, I would add, are learned.
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John Mietus
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Well, yeah.
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