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Brian Miller
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Well said, Todd!
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Jeremy Nichols
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If there is a great chance that the information on an information
site is inaccurate, then I probably won't consult that source at
all. When I look stuff on the internet, I take it with a major grain
of salt to begin with... a pillar, even... but one that is "user-
edited" is just, well, there's no point. And I never - NEVER - just
use one source anyway. Most of what the general public knows
about any given thing is usually a legendized version of the
truth anyway, or an irresistably entertaining outright falsehood.
Oh, and I'm staking out my claim right now as the 8th smartest
person discussing this topic, on this board, right now, at 2:18
pm.
Edited by Jeremy Nichols on 22 September 2005 at 12:18pm
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Todd Hembrough
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Wikipedia is still the first place I look for info, or to remind myself of the nuances of something.
I did reread about Moral Relativism, Occam's Razor, The Laws for
Thermodynamics today. Stuff that I am familiar with, but want to
avoid either overstating or misstating somethign.
For somethign I know little about, such as Medieval Literature, I will
go there get a sense of thing, and then google search for Sir Gawain,
or Parsifal, or whatever, and end up reading a university site.
I really like the site, and the hot links throughout, and the enormous
amount of information, and the way that htis information is presented
so that it is accessable.
The whole JB thing just reminds me (and everyone else) that there is
always an agenda, and even the driest text may have a political spin to
it.
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Jeremy Nichols
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That just doesn't make any sense to me, Todd. I get the
impression from your posts that you see relativism (and it's evil
child, Wikipedia) as one of the biggest problems facing
humanity, and yet... they're the first place you look for info???
That'd be like me, an atheist, checking the Bible before I made
any moral/ethical decisions.
Surely there are more accurate sources of information
available to you...
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Todd Hembrough
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I tend to doubt that there is much relativism imbued in the vast
majority of pages, and I think their idea of an open 'encyclopedia' is
an interesting one. It is accessable, and easy to use. And
furthermore, it almost always is near the top in a google search of a
subject.
For factual questions, I have not noted any real editorializing, and my
animus towards the site is more from the context of the hatchet job on
JB, and the subsequent rationalization that they were going through to
support theri behavior..
If you have a suggestion of an alternate source of info, I would be please to hear about it, and would happily check it out.
ps. comparing Wikipedia to the Bible is a bit of a stretch. IMHO.
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Jeremy Nichols
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Heh. Yeah, probably so...
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Eric Kleefeld
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Todd Hembrough:
ps. comparing Wikipedia to the Bible is a bit of a stretch.
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Must... not... swing at... easy ones...
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Tom Melly
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John Byrne wrote:
In my opinion, anyone who thinks that is an idiot. Since "no opinion can be wrong" I guess that means you are an idiot.
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In your opinion, I am an idiot (since I meet your definition of idiot=someone who thinks "no opinion can be wrong").
There is no particular franchise on the word 'idiot' - you are using it
the sense of "this person believes something that I consider patently
wrong". ergo, IYHO, I am an idiot.
IMHO you are patently wrong to believe that my statement is patently
incorrect. However, I don't happen to think that makes you an idiot.
But, in your opinion, you are... ;)
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John Leach
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Yay! Person 2 on my ignore list! Anyone who can spew out that kind of BS deserves to be ignored...
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Tom Melly
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John Byrne wrote:
It becomes increasingly obvious that some folk
hereabouts are forgetting Occam's Razor -- the simplest solution is
usually the correct one.
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I agree - however when two people can agree on a set of relatively safe
facts, they may still differ in opinion. Furthermore, the majority of
things that people choose to have differing opinions on are generally
not based on such firm foundations.
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Tom Melly
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Darragh Greene wrote:
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opinion is that the sun revolves around the earth and mine the
opposite, then we can't both be right or the iron laws of excluded
middle and non-contradiction are violated. Violate them and you descend
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IMHO that would be an incorrect fact, not an opinion. As I said, this thread seems to be confusing the two.
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Richard Callaghan
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Don't take this as "rude voice", take this as "light-hearted Monty Python" voice, but... isn't this getting a little silly?
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