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Peter Martin
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Posted: 01 March 2026 at 2:36am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

It is a kind of enticing false logic the growing roses thing.

Ignoring the fact that it was disingenuous anyway, perfectionism of this sort belies a lack of confidence. There is enough evidence, from the Beatles, to Motown, to Elton John, to Philip K Dick, and decades that cover the key times for comics (to mention just a few).. you're better off getting the ideas out there without fretting about smoothing the rough edges too much. And it's  a notion that doesn't even really work for an immediate, generally non-iterative medium like comics anyway. Just get the work out there.



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Posted: 01 March 2026 at 1:08pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply

“Get it right the next time.”

It’s a mantra that has served me well over the years, and one I have tried to impress on up-and-coming artists.

It’s important to remember that the readers have only the published work to go by, and have no way to know if a particular image is exactly what the artist intended.

As long as you’re doing your best, given the circumstances, there’s nothing to be ashamed of.

(In my fan days I would often labor over a piece of artwork, erasing and erasing until I sometimes wore right thru the paper. I had not yet learned Joe Simon’s words to Jack Kirby: “You don’t get paid to erase.”)

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Colin Ian Campbell
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Posted: 01 March 2026 at 2:59pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

My favourite rushed art was on Iron Man #39.  Herb Trimpe said he drew the cover in two hours and pencilled and inked the 19 page story in a couple of days.  Some people thought it had the worst artwork Marvel ever published, but I quite liked the funkiness of it.
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Posted: 01 March 2026 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

A note in passing:

That three day Spider-Man issue happened because it was discovered there actually was no next issue waiting in the drawer. A writer had departed, leaving vouchers screwed up. It was only by sheer chance that Roger Stern discovered the mess.

So Roger bashed out a plot for me. Frank Miller, hearing what was happening, suggested that instead of breakdowns, as intended, I should do my usual tight full pencils and the printer shoot from those.

Shooter declared we were crowding the deadlines much too close for that. So I did tight breakdowns and sent those to the Office, where they sat on Shooter’s desk for NINE DAYS until he approved an inker.

A notoriously slow inker. (Why they didn’t hand it to multiple inkers I will never know!)

Somehow, the issue came out on time.

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