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David Allen Perrin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 4:17am | IP Logged | 1
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A chilling article in Rolling Stone about how COVID has exposed...and unraveled America.
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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 7:40am | IP Logged | 2
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Perhaps worst of all is that the corona isn't directly to blame. It's happened to every country. Obviously every country's percentage of corona deaths isn't the magnitude of the United States. Not when some countries actually seem safe enough to allow meetings, opening of restaurants and taverns, and such.
No, our problem is that our administration is continually denying a problem, denying knowledge, blowing answers out its ass, procrastinating, and not working to keep matters from getting worse. And then there are other issues - there are ALWAYS other issues - which other leaders and administrations have dealt with so effectively that we haven't heard of them.
America will be remembered for a long time for how badly 2020 has been handled - and that will only hamper our ability to re-enter the international community.
All you Hillary haters... how do you think she would have handled this? Milquetoast and mild as many saw her, she wouldn't have fucked up. Sometimes the quality of the candidate is how bad they WON'T make things.
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Complete tangent - isn't this the day Joe Biden will announce his vice-presidential candidate? Any guesses?
And not to be morbid, but it might be the day he announces our next president. The man IS 77 years old, and now's a really hard time to be president. I wish him good health and good tolerance... but it's a hard act to follow.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 7:45am | IP Logged | 3
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Good read that one, David. Thanks for sharing.
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 8:34am | IP Logged | 4
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Complete tangent - isn't this the day Joe Biden will announce his vice-presidential candidate? Any guesses?
And not to be morbid, but it might be the day he announces our next president. The man IS 77 years old, and now's a really hard time to be president. I wish him good health and good tolerance... but it's a hard act to follow.
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If Biden wins in November, he will not complete all 4 years of his term. Health wise, I cannot see it.
I really believe that one of the reasons that Biden is running this time is to knock that smug look off King Minus face. If Joe would have ran in 2016, he would have steamed rolled Minus with no problems.
Of course whoever Biden choice is for VP, SHE will be 100x better than Minus on his good day. The fact that Minus is in office, we as a nation can NEVER use the excuse that a woman cannot be in that position.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 11:41am | IP Logged | 5
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The top three VP contenders appear to be Harris, Bass, and Rice. As I've said, I hope he picks Harris simply because she seems to have the least baggage politically. Rice has Benghazi and connections to the Clintons. Bass has said some things about Castro and Scientology that make her an oppo researcher's dream. The worst I've heard about Harris is that she's "too ambitious."
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 6
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While COVID would have gone better under Hillary, please bear in mind that America's private healthcare insurance is part of the problem too, and she would not have changed that major institution.
A video making the rounds in Canada is from one of our truckers who had a fender bender in the US. His company requires drug and alcohol testing after any accident. He called in the accident, and his company called back with a nearby Urgent Care where they had arranged testing. Because his case was truly not urgent, he was in the waiting room for an hour. During that time he saw 8 people come in, tell the receptionist they had COVID symptoms, and ask about testing. None of them had private insurance, and after being told their out of pocket cost for a COVID test, all 8 left without being tested.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 11:58am | IP Logged | 7
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Any connection to the Clintons is bad news!
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 12 February 2018 Location: Canada Posts: 4635
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 12:12pm | IP Logged | 8
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Masks work counter to Trumpo's terrible example and encouraging against it... here's the proof in counties in Kansas that mandated them versus the ones that went the supposed freedom of choice route!
7 Days in Kansas
Testing also works as you will notice non-essential Trump and the mostly useless if not negative people around him being tested and getting very fast results compared to everyone else... and guess what happens to all the very essential people employed your food production system... that stuff people in Texas and other parts line up for hours to receive. Once you're weak enough from hunger all that anger won't be much use right? California is running out of immigrant workers to pick crops right now, just saying. Prices on meat went up first but the rest of the food groups are not going to be far behind. >:^(
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 12:38pm | IP Logged | 9
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None of them had private insurance, and after being told their out of pocket cost for a COVID test, all 8 left without being tested.
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For now, there is no charge for any American for the test itself. There may be office visit fees, but the test is free. My company isn't charging anyone anything if they have no insurance.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | 10
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The worst I've heard about Harris is that she's "too ambitious."
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She’s tried to position herself as a criminal justice reform advocate as Senator and tried to describe her past as being a “progressive prosecutor”, but as a DA and state Attorney General, she (or her office) took some “tough on crime” positions or defended the status quo. Harris was my preference during the primary and is my preference for VP, but her record is going to be a point of criticism, especially from progressive activists, in a year where BLM and police reform are front and center.
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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | 11
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Michael Roberts wrote:
her record is going to be a point of criticism, especially from progressive activists, in a year where BLM and police reform are front and center. |
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Yeah, but I'm far more worried about a nominee who's vulnerable to criticism from the right, since Biden really needs to win independents and disgruntled Republicans (as well as win back Obama/Trump voters) in the swing states. There doesn't seem to be an obvious "hook" that Trump can tar Harris with. Rice is a Clinton-loving swamp dweller who covered up Benghazi. Bass is a Castro-loving socialist and closet Scientologist. I'm sure some progressives will not be thrilled with Harris, but I get the sense that there is more widespread understanding this year that the most progressive thing that can be done is to defeat Trump. I don't think appealing to the extreme wing of his party is the thing Biden needs to do at this point, and I think it could backfire in a manner similar to Sarah Palin.
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Rebecca Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 August 2020 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | 12
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"Rice is a Clinton-loving swamp dweller who covered up Benghazi."
You mean this is what the extreme-alt right says as opposed to the reality? They seem to have investigated Benghazi so many times yet never focusing on Republicans who cut the embassy security budgets (along with blocking infrastructure spending to help Obama fail). Susan Rice who you would think would appeal to those fans of Condi Rice (who would never forgive Canada for not being in on the fake WMD spurred invasion of Iraq) thrown under the bus... talk about loyalty (that only goes one way with modern supposed 'conservatives').
I wanted Klobuchar earlier but since she made the order to give it to a black woman I've had second thoughts more about her than any of the black women in contention. Harris is very quick witted and competent if he can overcome the debate attack, but I think Susan Rice has already been punished enough for doing her job well but having some kind of nonsensical Hilary taint to her. That stuff is in the 'more goofy U.S. self-destruction turning on itself' column to this observer. :^(
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