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Posted: 04 May 2026 at 4:01pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I do want to add that I have zero doubt that quite literally all of us have, in our ancestry, ancestors who were the product of these kind of relationships.

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Oh, there’s worse than that!

With each generation we go back, we double the number of ancestors we have. Two biological parents, four grandparents, eight great grandparents, and so on.

Problem is, go back about 30 generations, and we each have more ancestors than there were people on Earth. In order to get the necessary numbers, we end up with a whole lot of cousin-humping—and closer!

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I mean, we share 50% of our DNA with bananas. Yes, spanning back the quarter of a million years we've been here as a species, there's been a lot of sexual assault and incest in all of our ancestry. Even if there wasn't directly, eventually we'd go back and reach a point where we find commonality. 

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Problem is, go back about 30 generations, and we each have more
ancestors than there were people on Earth. In order to get the necessary
numbers, we end up with a whole lot of cousin-humping—and closer!
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Of course that happened, and probably a LOT more than we realize or even
want to know, but your estimation doesn’t take into account siblings and
how they share the same sets of parents, grandparents, etc.
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Posted: 04 May 2026 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Doesn’t need to. A single thread is enough.
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According to the pedigree collapse, any human being in the
year 1066, to give a date, is a direct ancestor of any of
us... Which makes time travel even more complicated!
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Posted: 06 May 2026 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

What I find interesting is the idea of jumping back thru my ancestors one by one, and noticing how soon (in geologic time) I am not jumping through people any more.
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Posted: 06 May 2026 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

…we share 50% of our DNA with bananas…

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In his humorous essay “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex”, Larry Niven pointed out the futility of Lois Lane attempting to have children with Superman, an extraterrestrial. She’d have more luck mating with a banana.

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Posted: 06 May 2026 at 8:44pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

Found this elsewhere, commenting on GENERATIONS:

“Ong mate, so much potential and its wasted on the New Gods and making Superman and Batman date minors.”

Uhm, no.

Here’s a frustration I face with so many “reviews” of my work—even some of the good ones! It’s not the actual work that is being reviewed. More often it’s cobbled together nonsense based on misquotes, rumors and outright lies.

sigh

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