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Stéphane Garrelie
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Posted: 24 August 2025 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | 1 post reply
France. And that's how we answer this kind of thing.
Sometime iimperfectly, but if we may disagree with the law, it is still something clear to argue about, and the rule to follow as long as it stands.
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Robin Taylor
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Posted: 25 August 2025 at 3:26pm | IP Logged | 2 post reply
Germany seems to have a handle on how to handle specific symbols of hat. Here in Canada we have hate speech laws that I don't think go far enough but they do exist.

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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply
Banning books for spreading hate depends on the views of
groups, large or small, with specific leanings (left,
right, center, etc.), so we shouldn't fall for those
games.

Let's assume the ban is successful and hate speech ceases
to exist... The human mind in society is insatiable; more
quickly than immediately, hate would be found in other
discourses; humans can't stop their fixation on limiting
themselves in everything.

Furthermore, the true generators of hate would be
generating subtleties, and no one would discover them
until it was too late. Freedom of expression allows us to
know the intentions (whether they lie is another matter)
of people and their twisted minds.

I prefer to stay away from a person who openly says
unpleasant things than to find out too late.
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Steve Coates
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply
I prefer not to limit freedom of expression. It is much easier to identify the fools.
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 3:44pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply
"Doing it for the good of others" is a well-worn excuse.
What kind of hysterical person* tries to control
everything?

Parents deciding to prohibit certain printed materials
from their children seems normal to me. In certain
religious communities, this is done with materials
foreign to their beliefs. But for certain groups to
decide for the rest of humanity, whether through laws or
the power of social media, seems a great injustice to me.

*Understanding the concept of a hysterical person as
someone who thinks they know what others need, but in the
process completely ignores their own needs and problems.
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