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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 2:23pm | IP Logged | 1
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…and a litigator was born!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 2:56pm | IP Logged | 2
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In my middle teens I had a big crush on “Cousin Kathy”, the British half of the “identical cousins” on THE PATTY DUKE SHOW.In one episode “Cousin Patty”, tired of falling short next to her smarter, more sophisticated doppelganger, resolved that her kids, at least, would not suffer a similar fate. So she set out to snare the smartest boy in her high school. In one scene, she was impressed and delighted to hear one of the handsome jocks holding forth on matters scientific—until she learned that what he knew he got from reading comics books. She abandoned her pursuit of him in disgust. “But he still knows what he knows,” I wailed at the TV. I still feel the sting sixty years later!
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 3:00pm | IP Logged | 3
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Maybe Stan Lee didn’t understand gamma rays — but he inspired me to look them up and learn about them! INTER ALIA, you pompous judgmental pricks!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | 4
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Altho…….Because of Stan I thought transistors were a power source and there was a mysterious “blue area” on the Moon. Because of comics I spent many years thinking “cavemen” and dinosaurs existed at the same time.
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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 5:15pm | IP Logged | 5
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Maybe a funnier storyline for Cousin Patty would have been to have her fall in love with a scientific young man who taught her big words like "transmogrophication" -- but then he convinced her there was a mysterious "blue area" on the moon-- getting them both into hot water.
But that wouldn't help-- any negativity would make audiences see the comic books as a hinderence to a decent education. I'm not sure this is a problem in Europe, but in America we would need a full throated propaganda campaign to champion comics as the key to good-thinking for people to let go of this prejudice. I think the movies confirm this-- doing everything they can to distinguish themselves as different than the comic books they came from.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 6
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Maybe a funnier storyline for Cousin Patty would have been to have her fall in love with a scientific young man who taught her big words like "transmogrophication" -- but then he convinced her there was a mysterious "blue area" on the moon-- getting them both into hot water.••• Yes, that would have been hilarious for the eight people who got it.
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Mark Haslett Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 6:23pm | IP Logged | 7
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Sorry. I should have spoken more clearly-- that wouldn't have been "funnier" and I shouldn't have been criticising a show I've never seen. I was trying to construct a rhetorical point using "inside jokes" from this thread. My point was supposed to be that, even if they had gone extra lengths to portray some of these things accurately, the overall attitude that comics are for dim-wits would still hold so much sway.
Edited by Mark Haslett on 27 August 2025 at 7:15pm
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Evan S. Kurtz Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 04 July 2022 Location: Canada Posts: 178
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 7:20pm | IP Logged | 8
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A big reason I got so into comics as an 11 or 12 year old was because my middle school’s librarian had numerous subscriptions to a variety of Marvel titles. Many, many of the boys used to read them during our regular library time.
I can’t recall a single instance of people in my life bullying me about comics, but maybe some did and I just never cared. I recall a period in my late teens where I was reluctant to let people know I collected comics. I remember JB once saying in the old AOL days that if someone is embarrassed about reading comics, then they are too old to read them (I’m poorly paraphrasing, it was nearly 30 years ago!). That never felt right to me, because even if people never bullied me about comics, they didn’t hesitate to ridicule me for all kinds of other things, and I really didn’t care to let anyone learn anything about what I enjoyed doing.
Funny how, now that the stigma of comics has mostly gone away, fewer people than ever are reading them, and in general they seem inaccessible to the young audience who were once the driving force behind comics’ economic success.
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Evan S. Kurtz Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 7:21pm | IP Logged | 9
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I liked your original response/joke, Mark.
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Michael Penn Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 9:23pm | IP Logged | 10
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Because of Stan Lee I thought a couple of Judo moves could pretty much beat anybody!
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Rich Johnston Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 04 February 2019 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 37
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 9:26pm | IP Logged | 11
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>Funny how, now that the stigma of comics has mostly gone away, fewer people than ever are reading them, and in general they seem inaccessible to the young audience who were once the driving force behind comics’ economic success.
More Americans are reading comics now than at any time since the Golden Age. It's just that they are aimed at kids now. The highest selling American comics now have print runs of mid seven figures, from the likes of Dav Pilkey, Raina Telegemeir, John Patrick Green and Shannon Hale, and plenty have high six figures, with high sell through as well. Comics for kids have been one of the the biggest publishing success stories of late, regularly topping the bookstore charts.
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Steve Coates Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 November 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 854
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Posted: 27 August 2025 at 9:52pm | IP Logged | 12
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Hey Rich, what the source of your information? I'd like to dig deeper.
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