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Casey Sager
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Posted: 10 July 2024 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | 1  
Matt - That's why when I made the point I said 40+ years.

If we have to go back to Truman and hope for the same result...well, hope is not a strategy and apparently it seems like that is exactly the strategy Dems are using.
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'Ladies and gentlemen, president Putin.'
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Charles Valderrama
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Remember when Trump called Tim Cook, Tim Apple?

Pelosi instead of Haley?

How about good ol' Ronnie Johnson??

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Remember when Trump called Tim Cook, Tim Apple?

This is turning into a "Who's More Senile?" contest, IDIOCRACY territory.

Surprised that Biden's family allows this, encourage it actually.

And it also puzzles me not seeing anyone think not long term, but at least midterm. Can you imagine 4 more years of this? The situation isn't going to improve, on the contrary it will worsen exponentially as anyone who had grandparents knows.

And post-debate it's gonna be impossible to ignore, like everyone collectively did before with his habitual faux-pass' these past few years. He'll mix up names, concepts and space out a bit every single day. It's not viable.

On the other side, Trump and his people have made it crystal clear that they want Biden on the ticket and no one else, that should give you all you need to know.




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My first reply in this thread stated neither is physically or mentally fit
enough to be president.
I stand by that statement.
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Aren’t we catching Biden prove daily that he is currently fit to do the job?

To me, the debate is all about who can beat Trump.

I’m not worried about the risks of Biden as a geriatric President.

I think anyone trying to say Biden and Trump are the “same” in any way is
not seeing clearly.

I do worry that Biden’s appearance may cost him the election and bring on
the stated catastrophic plans of Trump and project 2025. But the fears of
going with Biden are about how ill-advised it seems to have a candidate
whose every speech makes you wonder if he might have a brain-freezing
embarrassment. I’m not certain that means he can’t beat Trump— it just
feels RISKY!
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People seem to forget it's not just the person on the ballot, it's the administration that they bring with them.  Hey Biden could win and within the year could be considered unfit for office so that case we get Harris for president and I'd totally be OK with that as opposed to whatever administration comes with Trump if he gets declared unfit.
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Mark Haslett
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What people forget that?

The question is not would it be ok for this administration to take over if
Biden fails, it’s how the hell can he win an election if he can’t present his
own message? If he can’t prosecute the case against Trump? If he can’t
give a speech without the nation holding its breath hoping he doesn’t lose
his train of thought?

He had a “bad night” at the debate.

He WILL have more “bad nights”.

How many must he have before we admit he can’t win?

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Apparently a lot of people Mark, because that's all they are fixated on.  Yes he's old and it comes with a lot of complications for sure, but the Dems should have been pushing this hard last year not 5 months before an election.  And who would be on the ballot that could sway any swing state voters?  I haven't been paying attention that closely so I don't know any names being thrown out there, anyone have any info on this?
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A HARRIS-OBAMA ticket might be good since the former
First Lady polls very well against Trump. Also, the
campaign would still have access to the money already
raised and can run on the accomplishments of the last few
years, but I think America is more sexist and racist than
ageist.

Allan Lichtman thinks Biden still has a good chance to
win, so I still have hope. He says a contested convention
would hurt the Dems more than help.

Biden does not seem senile to me based on his public
appearances after the debate. He'll still make mistakes,
but so do a lot of people on TV. In the last day, I saw
several clips of media people saying the wrong name -
Kristen Welker on Meet The Press Now, David Brooks on PBS
Newshour and Larry Kudlow on Fox. It happens to everyone.
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Brian: Apparently a lot of people Mark, because that's all they are fixated on.

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You know what, there's a category problem in this thread. Yes, too many voters are fixated on that and you are correct in pointing that out.

But I assumed you were referring to people engaging in this debate about Biden's chances to win. In that debate, it is commonly admitted that Joe is not senile and is surrounded by a fine administration. This will not count for anything if he doesn't win, though.

As for who can grab swing-state voters, there is no silver-bullet candidate. But polling consistently shows Biden behind Trump and losing ground. With his limitations, it is impossible to see how he can turn that around. Any other candidate is at least able to take the fight to those states and make a contest.
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The Democrats are doing more to damage Joe Biden than any lousy debate ever could. They are doing this. Not voters.

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