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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17700
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 3:41pm | IP Logged | 1
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If you're not reading Invincible, it's your missed opportunity. The book is
great.
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It's kept me entertained. (There have only been a few missteps here and
there for me.)
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 6674
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 4:34pm | IP Logged | 2
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That IS the point! The book is great AND Kirkman is a
responsible comic booker!
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Simon Bowland Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: England Posts: 385
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 6:14pm | IP Logged | 3
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Todd's only been able to publish Spawn on a regular schedule since he took the decision to step back from it, artistically. His contribution to comics over the past 15 years is pretty negligible. He made a huge fuss about creative folk owning their own properties, and then proceeded to publish his own book using work-for-hire talent. Then he screwed Neil Gaiman.
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Michael Casselman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 January 2006 Location: United States Posts: 1254
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 7:00pm | IP Logged | 4
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I think the worst late story I can remember, was DC running 3 months
late putting out one of the JACK KIRBY"S FOURTH WORLD OMNIBUS' last
year. How do you run 3 months late putting out a collection of material
that's 35 years old? How?
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I think it's disingenuous trying to compare the rationale for the printing delay for a one-off collected edition and meeting deadlines for original material on a recurrent basis.
3 months? {pfft} I can think of delays where children could have been conceived, born and nearly put in preschools during the time period involved.
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Wilson Mui Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 June 2004 Location: United States Posts: 4557
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 8:07pm | IP Logged | 5
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I am surprised to hear that Todd McFarlane is considered a slow producer. I remember back in the day he was putting out issues of Spider-Man on a bi-weekly basis.
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Peter Svensson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 January 2005 Location: United States Posts: 1470
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 8:21pm | IP Logged | 6
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Perez used to be relatively fast. Adam Hughes was the regular penciler on Justice League America. Neal Adams did the monthly gig.
Some artists just get slower with time.
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Paul Kimball Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 8:29pm | IP Logged | 7
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3 months? {pfft}
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That was very Nero Wolfian of you Michael.
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 8369
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Posted: 07 June 2009 at 9:13pm | IP Logged | 8
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Sorry Michael, I realized after reading your response that my post is an unfinished thought. As I read it back to myself, it doesn't seem to apply as a good example of this thread's subject matter.
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Steve D Swanson Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 2:49am | IP Logged | 9
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Actually, Stephen, I think you made a pretty good point since this thread is partly about how seriously the publishers treat their own deadlines and how that translates to the talent.
If your employer doesn't seem to care about the deadline, and doesn't even respect their own deadlines (and in that specific case it is about respecting the retailers and the customers who ordered it and are waiting for it come in. Especially on such a big ticket, expensive comic book), but then turns to you and cracks the whip to get you to respect the deadline are you going to take that employer seriously? The whole attitude expressed by missing a deadline on something that was already done and should have been ready to go is certainly part of the problem.
If the editors and publishers don't care then is it any surprise that attitude filters down to the writers and artists?
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Jim Muir Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 26 June 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1374
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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 3:40am | IP Logged | 10
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<<If your employer doesn't seem to care about the deadline ... but then turns to you and cracks the whip to get you to
respect the deadline are you going to take that employer seriously?>>
And there's the problem - the employer doesnt care about the deadline or crack any whips!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 4:59am | IP Logged | 11
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Perez used to be relatively fast. Adam Hughes was the regular penciler on Justice League America. Neal Adams did the monthly gig.Some artists just get slower with time. •• It's important, too, to keep an eye on how long those "monthly gigs" run. Jack Kirby did 100 issues of FANTASTIC FOUR, most of them monthly, without missing an issue, and while producing long monthly runs on other books, too. Very few artists have actually done that, even among us nose-to-the-grindstone types. Take Neal as a good example. His BATMAN run is considered one of the best in the history of the book -- but not only did he not do long consecutive issue runs, he worked at a time when BATMAN was on that odd schedule so many books had, where certain months were skipped each year. (Basically, twice-quarterly, tho BATMAN used to come out around 10 times per year.) These were not books that missed shipping, this was the actual schedule (and one to which I often think we should return!)
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Arc Carlton Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 June 2009 at 10:43am | IP Logged | 12
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3 months? {pfft} I can think of delays where children could have been conceived, born and nearly put in preschools during the time period involved.
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Good point. Long delays are now quite frequent...
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