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John Byrne
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Yeah, get parents to encourage their kids to read comics. That'll kill 'em
faster than a bullet :)
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Even with a :) that makes no sense at all.
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Robert Walsh
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Because kids are notorious for doing what they're parents tell them to do, such as cleaning their rooms and eating their broccoli. Want to make a kid hate something, get their parents to convince them that it's good for them.
As a kid, I started reading not because my parents nagged me to read, but because my parents read. Eventually I wondered what the big deal was and around the age of 12 discovered exactly what the big deal was.
I still hate virtually every classic novel I was forced to read by school.
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Victor Rodgers
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Raising prices to over four bucks (after tax) had to hurt sales. It must have pushed away some readers who were standing on the edge. I know im only buying Essentials. Which seem to have been pushed to over twenty dollars. I,ll stick with them as its still less than a buck for each issue.
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John Byrne
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Funny thing about those "high" prices -- back when the cover price first started to really climb at an accelerated rate, jumping in a very short span from 20¢ to 25 to 35 to 50 and so on, there was concern that this would cost us sales. But there was a factor no one had, well, factored in: the higher the price, the more appealing comics were to the vendors in those pre-comicshop days. So, for a long while, any drop in sales due to higher price was off-set to at least some degree by more outlets carrying comics.So imagine how appealing that $4 cover tag would make comics now, if we could only break the stranglehold of the DSM.
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Charles Valderrama
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Want to make a kid hate something, get their parents to convince them that
it's good for them.
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Talk about raising the white flag without much effort!!! Kids can be
encouraged to do something if you are creative about it. Letting kids
sit in front of a computer, TV or play video games has become a easy
solution for some parents and i think it's sad.
Kids will only hate something if you force it on them!
-C!
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Robert Walsh
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I trust you can appreciate the irony of parents encouraging kids to read comics after decades of telling kids that reading them will rot their brain.
But tell a kid to "pick up a book" (original wording: "kids should be told NOT to
spend so much time with video games and pick up a book") is a sure way to make it feel like a punishment. Want to encourage your child to read, then read.
Edited by Robert Walsh on 20 June 2009 at 8:02am
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I do see comics in local 7-11 stores here in eastern VA. Not many mind you, but they are there.
WOW!
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The convenience stores, groceries, and pharmacies don't want them . . . . But to suggest that it's somehow up to them at this point is silly.
Interesting! Thanks for your thoughts, Jeff.
Edited by Dan Walsh on 20 June 2009 at 8:13am
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That's pretty much the case--some time ago some marketing guy
determined that, based on square feet, spinner racks were not economically
worthwhile compared with other items. They also attracted people who
would loiter and read or destroy the books. So--out they went.
Erik-
So if the convenience stores aren't cooperating, and if the Direct Market limits the the larger gross sale of comics (numbers much higher than 100K/month), then what are the alternatives to getting comics in more kids/people's hands? Is digital the only answer?
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So imagine how appealing that $4 cover tag would make comics now, if we could only break the stranglehold of the DSM.
Suggestions?
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Charles Valderrama
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Robert, if you intend to quote me, use the entire quote, not part of it.
"kids should be told NOT to spend so much time with video games and pick
up a book... or a COMIC BOOK... there should be time for BOTH and the
importance of reading should be stressed more than downloading the latest
games or sending text messages."
BTW i agree- the parents should read as well - whatever it takes to
encourage reading. My point was NOT to give kids any excuse not to read.
-C!
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Lars Sandmark
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Given the benefit of hindsite we can now see the NEGATIVE impact that Image comics has had on the industry.
The current crop of creators in comics has been exposed to the example of what happened to the Image 'boys'. -Get Rich,
get Famous,
Put YOUR Mark on characters.
Succeed whether the books come out on time or not.
The name on the credits are more important than the character-name on the cover.
(I don't consider this statement as mind-reading because it's a safe bet that everyone working at the big two have heard of Image and are aware of the state of the industry and the recent* history of comic book publishing. * recent= past 20 years)
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