| Author |
|
John Byrne
Grumpy Old Guy
Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 133584
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 5:58pm | IP Logged | 1
|
|
|
Discussion is great JB, But maybe it's time to take action.
••
This reminds me of when the Industry crashed. For several years, it had been like a car careening down a cliff road in a thunderstorm. Sitting in the back seat, I kept saying "Don't you think we should slow down?' The response was laughter and a metaphorical tousling of my hair. "Don't be such a wet blanket, JB! What could possibly go wrong?" Then the car went off the cliff, and the response was for those same folk to turn to me and say "Okay, bright boy! You're s'smart! What do we do NOW!?"I've been "taking action" for twenty years.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Lee Painter
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 January 2009
Posts: 304
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 5:59pm | IP Logged | 2
|
|
|
To be fair to Erik Larsen, Savage Dragon does out sell quite a few Marvel and DC titles and some IDW titles on a monthly basis, even with SD sales averaging below 10,000.
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2009/2009-05.htm l
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Jesus Garcia
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 April 2007
Location: Canada
Posts: 2414
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:04pm | IP Logged | 3
|
|
|
SD sales seem to have stabilized around this amount -- and
this despite a 9-month hiatus while he was publisher and
helped launch other books. Despite the nonsense of the
current comic book industry, Erik seems to have at least
this many loyal fans.
Turns outs this is the book I've been the most loyal to in
over 40 years of reading comics. I have a full set 1-148 in
a box next to 40 Kirby Kamandis in another box.
And the book keeps making money, too.
Edited by Jesus Garcia on 17 June 2009 at 6:06pm
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Luca Tavan
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 March 2009
Location: Australia
Posts: 50
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:05pm | IP Logged | 4
|
|
|
To be fair to Erik Larsen, Savage Dragon does out sell quite a few
Marvel and DC titles and some IDW titles on a monthly basis, even with
SD sales averaging below 10,000.
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales/2009/2009-05.htm l ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------- Issue 149 sold out and is going into second printing.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
Simon Bowland
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: England
Posts: 385
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:15pm | IP Logged | 5
|
|
|
Thanks for the link, Mike. Those are similar numbers to the ones I'd been looking at, and at 6k for Savage Dragon I'm not seeing any mainstream Marvel and DC book selling below that. The Marvel and DC books you can see below 6k on that list are variant editions and restocks. Can't speak for Dark Horse or IDW, as I have no idea which of their books are mainstream, restocks, etc.
Erik?
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
Simon Bowland
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: England
Posts: 385
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:20pm | IP Logged | 6
|
|
|
Oh, and Luca - "sold out and is going into a second printing" doesn't really hold any weight in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure it sold more than this, but it could have had a print run of 5k and sold out, and gone into a second printing. Doesn't mean it's outselling Marvel and DC books - as Erik has assured us Savage Dragon is. I'm not having a pop at the guy - I'm not cut from the same cloth as he is - but he keeps making statements which are basically nonsense, and I just want him to clarify. The fact that he isn't doing so, makes me jump to conclusions which portray him as talking rubbish.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
William Byrd
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 October 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 165
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:26pm | IP Logged | 7
|
|
|
With 334 non-returnable titles in one month, how does sales today overall compare to the market in the 80's when a big chunk of books (sometimes over 50% of a printing from what I am told) would be returned?
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Glenn Brown
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 3095
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | 8
|
|
|
I clicked on that link for the site displaying sales figures. Those number cannot be accurate...can they? How in the world can a major company afford to publish a book featuring a major character selling less than ten thousand copies..? Are these numbers for real or just speculation?
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
| www
e-mail
|
| |
Stephen Churay
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 8369
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:35pm | IP Logged | 9
|
|
|
JB: I've been "taking action" for twenty years.
++
As I'm not there for your day to day life, (I know, thank god) if I've made any wrong assumptions, I apologize. As long as I've been collecting comics, I've heard the sky is falling. After a while, I've become numb to the phrase because I've heard it for so long. After seeing the sales figures from May, I realize that the sky is not just falling, but reached terminal velocity. It makes me curious as to what It'll take for Joe Q. and Dan D. to be moved aside.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
Stephen Churay
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2009
Location: United States
Posts: 8369
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:49pm | IP Logged | 10
|
|
|
To give everybody an idea of how bad it is, compared to just a year ago, the number one book of May 2008 sold over 180,000 copies.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
Mike Howell
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 10 August 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 528
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:49pm | IP Logged | 11
|
|
|
Thanks for the link, Mike. Those are similar numbers to the ones I'd been looking at, and at 6k for Savage Dragon I'm not seeing any mainstream Marvel and DC book selling below that. The Marvel and DC books you can see below 6k on that list are variant editions and restocks. Can't speak for Dark Horse or IDW, as I have no idea which of their books are mainstream, restocks, etc.
-------
Most welcome about the link.
I get a fair number of the books selling less than Savage Dragon. So I can help you somewhat with which ones are variants/reprints etc. However I'm unsure what you'd consider a mainstream title. Can you give an example or two of DC or Marvel books in the top 300 that aren't mainstream?
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Robert Oren
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 23 March 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 1209
|
| Posted: 17 June 2009 at 6:55pm | IP Logged | 12
|
|
|
Erik as a massive nova fan.......your run on a "B" book like nova was horrendous it took ten years to bring him back after that disaster
JB took books and made them his own the run on she-hulk was innovative
and his namor was original and fun....i have nothing against Erik but the facts are facts!!
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
Topic Closed)
