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Erik Larsen
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Thanos--many sites have ways of tracking numbers of hits and they can tell
how many views a given page has.
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Jesus Garcia
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Safest course to pursue, when discussing history, is to shy
away from speaking authoritavely about events one did not
witness first hand.
Everything else is hearsay, correct?
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Peter Svensson
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Likewise they can tell if it's the same person reading it over and over again.
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Darren Taylor
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The key point I think Thanos is driving it is are they -unique- page views.
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Paul Greer
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Take Paul Smith, he took on The Uncanny X-Men, and left it shortly after a year to do Doctor Strange as he was a fan of the character. He left the highest selling title to go on to one of the lowest selling.
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Great example. It boils down to what your passion is. Is it to maintain the top spot or is it to work on projects you want to work on?
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Erik Larsen
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Greg--that's right. People make those kinds of moves all the time. Paul
Smith is a terrific artist and his work only got better but to many fans--he
stepped off the face of the Earth when he stopped doing X-Men. He stopped
being "X-Men's Paul Smith" and he became a mere mortal. These days few
fans even know who he is.
I've made similar career moves. Choosing jobs for fun not profit and while
it's led to me being a happier individual--it's not done a lot for my bank
account. But then--that's not everything.
(Oh wait--I thought--all of the Image guys are "only in it for the money" --
how does THAT work?)
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Andrew W. Farago
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Andrew, how do they measure the millions of readers? I am completely
unfamiliar with webcomics and this an honest question (the thread has
me worried I will get the wrong message accross).
If they buy the webcomic, OK, it is a significant indicator.
If they count visits, then it's rather pointless. It could be a vastly smaller number of readers behind it.
Please, let me know.
There are all sorts of statistics for measuring how many individual users/computers visit a particular website. The most popular websites are able to prove to advertisers that they generate a certain amount of web-traffic daily (or weekly, or monthly), and those advertisers will shell out money to reach their particular target audience. If you create the most popular webcomic about video games, for example, then video game companies are likely to pay to advertise on your site, since their ads will reach their intended audience.
For the most part, with the exception of subscription-based sites like Marvel's, readers get free comics content online, and then will have the option of buying books and other merchandise featuring their favorite comics. The most popular webcomics creators are able to make a decent living from this formula (and the selling of ad space), but most online content creators (and that includes cartoonists, bloggers, filmmakers, bands, and loads of other people) are generating little to no revenue online. There's so much free stuff online, and so much pirated stuff online, that it's an uphill battle to convince people to pay anything for content.
Hope that helps clear things up a little bit.
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Matt Hawes
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Erik Larsen wrote:
...Early on at Image we had
some deadline problems and it was our goal to help rectify that situation.
Part of that effort was to take on other creators and their books with the
stipulation that they must meet their deadlines because we were
trying to get our company back on track and that they must do decent
work. A lot of these guys blew it--turning in books that were months
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So, you're saying that the founders at Image couldn't put their own books out on time, so hired others to put out other comics on time, but didn't do it, so you fired them?
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Michael Arndt
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I hate flying monkeys.
Seriously. They scare me.
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Sebastien Roy
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"So, you're saying that the founders at Image couldn't put their own books out on time, so hired others to put out other comics on time, but didn't do it, so you fired them?"
I never understand why people feel the need to take jabs at Erik Larsen, or vice-versa for that matter. It's like your hoping for retaliation or something...
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Greg McPhee
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Can't we all just get along??
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Keith Thomas
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The Golden Age disputes that notion…
I was thinking more in terms of the internet, cell phones
(iphones), video games, toys, cable television, dvds. Manga
is the only other print media I was thinking of.
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