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Chad Carter
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Kirby very early on realized that Reed was not Plastic Man, and the Plastic Man-like stunts faded away.

I have to shamefully admit I was all about Mr. Fantastic during Wolfman and Keith Pollard's run, leading up to FANTASTIC FOUR ish 200...Reed lost his stretching powers and then (spoiler beyond, I guess for the uninitiated) had to fly into space and get bombarded with cosmic rays (while fighting the Red Ghost no less...god I miss the "old" story-telling) and ended up nearly twice as powerful as he was before.

I thought this was wicked cool when I was nine or so...at one point in the big Dr. Doom fight in ish 200, Reed makes his fist a spiked square mace, actually shredding metal off Vic's chin.

Is this "impossible" though? Was the amped-up Reed somehow hardening his mace-fist to the point of being hard enough to shred steel? This would suggest he controls the density of his bones and flesh consciously, like Johnny flames on or Sue turns invisible.

Reed unconscious falling out of a crashing airplane would splat like any normal person, while Reed conscious turns into a giant rubber ball?

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And Adams copied Michael Golden:

Where's the 5 ft of extra webbing behind where his hand is
and the unnatural body positions then?
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Micheal to Art to the Toddler -- and, like copying a videotape, something is
lost with each pass.
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Wow, can't believe I never noticed the pasta webbing on that Longshot cover
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Brian Miller
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 Keith Thomas wrote:
Where's the 5 ft of extra webbing behind where his hand is
and the unnatural body positions then?

Jesus. Really? You're really going to tell me that Adams made the webbing unique because he had "5 ft extra webbing behind where his hand is at?" Any schlub can look at how the webbing is drawn and see the two are alike. Are you that big a Art Adams fan that you just can't accept that someone else did it first?



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Brian Miller: I love that subscription ad. Thanks for posting it.
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Keith Thomas
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Not really that big a fan at all. I'm just pointing out the   
unique things that McFarlane copied from Adams otherwise
you could make the argument McFarlane was copying Golden,
which he wasn't. You just made the assumption I was
referring to the things Adams copied from Golden, which I
wasn't.
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$.02

I loved Erik on ASM, and was sad he left.

I disliked Bagley, and stopped buying ASM for the first
time in my life. Came back when I saw JB's run start.
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$.04

I loved Silvestri on Wolverine, but the art didn't
translate to his IMAGE title, IMO.

Super Patriot and Freak Force were my fave's back then.

Now, it's Invincible.
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Luca Tavan
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After posting that, I questioned my knowledge at the time, so I looked up
some covers. I'm surprised to find that it was more obvious than I
remembered. I can't argue a point better than these pictures could make
so I'm not going to try. But if you can honestly say that you don't see a
similarity then we should just agree to disagree. I would find it hard to
understand anyone not seeing a similarity between Bagley and Larsen in
the picture below.
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Thank you, this was the point that I was trying to make. Not that Bagley
drew anything from Larsen's art style, just his approach to drawing
Spider-man.

Even to this day, have a look at these two images:

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Read somewhere that Marvel used one of Erik's Spider-Man drawings on it's
corporate checks for a while.
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Brian Miller
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Sorry, Luca. Don't see it. Some of Bagley's early Spidey work, I can see some influence, but his later, ULTIMATE stuff, nope.
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