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John Byrne
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Man I remember at one point you were doing like 4 titles and covers as well.
when you took over Superman for DC, I am wrong? what is the most titles
you've done at a given time?
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3, two full pencils, one breakdowns.
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Al Cook
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Luca Tavan wrote:
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Um, because you did it to me first, and I'm petty that way, obviously.
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Al Cook
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Still waiting to see if Mr. Larsen has a response to my legitimate, if disdain-
filled post about actually having anything to say about the enduring
qualities of Liefeld's characters, and not just their enduring financial
potential.
Well Erik?
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Jim Campbell
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(Deleted for answering a question not directed to the poster.)
Edited by JohnByrne2 on 27 June 2009 at 7:58am
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Jim Campbell
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My apologies. I misremembered that rule as specifically relating to questions
addressed to JB, and not to all posters in general.
Cheers
Jim
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Donald Pfeffer
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QUOTE:
Still waiting to see if Mr. Larsen has a response to my legitimate, if disdain-
filled post about actually having anything to say about the enduring
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From my perspective, he answered your (rather pointed) question. He may not have given the answer you were trying to coerce him toward, but he answered it all the same. He gave his opinion on where many of Liefeld's characters are right now but refuses to predict the future. What does it matter what his personal opinions on those creations are? I may think Harry Potter is a poorly written series of novels with no literary value, but they are certainly proving enduring.
But in a roundabout way, you raise an interesting point. Doesn't financial success have something to do with a property's ability to "endure" (your word, not mine. It's a bit too nebulous to have any real meaning)? If people aren't paying to read about a character, that character won't endure. I think financial success is a fairly good gauge of whether or not a mass audience likes something.
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Matt Hawes
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Victor wrote:
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Not only that, but the cowards that do such things as they have with Nathan do so in hiding. The person making the insulting comments would actually have to reveal himself, and that would open that person up to some legal problems of his own. So, I say post the message if you want (though it does stoke the coward's ego) and let him try and take you to court. Pretty sure that woouldn't happen, at all. And if it did, now you got the guy's real identity!
Edited by Matt Hawes on 27 June 2009 at 9:51am
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Donald Pfeffer
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It's one thing to post an email on your own website where the risk is all yours, but to do it on a forum run and hosted by somebody else is probably a bad idea.
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Chad Carter
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I don't mean to derail the thread, but how do royalties work for free-lancers in comic books owned by corporations?
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John Byrne
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Same as for everyone else. An agreed upon (or, more correctly, dictated by the company) percentage of sales.
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Chad Carter
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So an artist doesn't receive royalties for creation (like Great Lakes Avengers appearing in other titles by other people). If Great Lakes Avengers became the new, say, Thunderbolts in popularity, John Byrne doesn't get a cent of those huge sales?
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Anthony Frail
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Al Cook wrote:
Still able to make money = enduring.
Thank you for you blunt honesty about the crass consumerism of the
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Well... isn't that what enduring means for a comicbook character?
I've never been a big fan of Aquaman or Ant-Man, but they're certainly enduring. Enduring means that the characater is able
to continue on for an extended period of time. To do that, the character must generate revenue to make it worthwhile to
continue publishing his or her book.
Cable, Deadpool, X-Force, and Youngblood are far from the greatest characters on Earth, but it's been nearly two decades
since they've been introduced and they continue to be published. Deadpool was a main character in the recent Wolverine
film and has his own series; I find him to be a fairly one-note villain but the character seems to endure.
I think the real thing here is that Erik is likely not a huge Rob Liefeld fan and doesn't want to publicly make quality
assessments on work that his company is currently publishing; y'know, being professional. That's why he won't answer the
question as you want him to.
Edited to add quotes box
Edited by Anthony Frail on 27 June 2009 at 10:17am
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