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John Peter Britton
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Arc i only ever bought 2000AD because some of my favourites artists drew in the comic i could have worked on that comic way back in the early 70's but i declined.
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Jim Campbell
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i could have worked on that comic way back in the early 70's but i
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You'd have had a job -- it didn't launch until '77!
Cheers
Jim
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John Peter Britton
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I meant the late 70's Jim, but at that time i worked in the city of London and i knew about this comic long before it came out!
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Arc Carlton
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John: Can I ask why did you decline that offer?
So you were never a fan of British writers...
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John Peter Britton
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Some of the writers were ok but i went of that comic i was brought up on comics like the Eagle.TV21.Look and Learn who my late boss created.
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Dale Ingram
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The problem that I see with digital comics, or web comics, whatever you choose to call them, is that far too often, they are a literal translation of a print comic book or comic strip, just displayed on a user’s monitor. It’s the same exact thing that you can get in print. Why would any comic book fan who grew up on print comics, switch over to digital as long as they can get the experience they want in the print version?
This goes back to something JB said upthread. “Digital may be the future, but they aren’t the future of comic books.” I tend to agree. As long as web comics remain a literal translation of print comics, they’ll remain a stepchild of that form, never surpassing it in popularity, and certainly never becoming the next offshoot of the sequential art form that they could become, if it were viewed more as a different yet related media.
I’ve been doing a web comic for years now, and it’s dismaying when I’m approached by a reader who asks when the print version is coming out. But I get it. Print comic fans like to have the actual, physical comic. They like the smell of the paper, they like to hold the thing in their hand, know that they own it and can read it anywhere they like. There’s a sentimentality, or a nostalgia that’s attached to that object. That’s one of the things that print comics offer to the experience that a digital comic can’t offer.
The question for me has always been “well what then can a digital comic offer that print can’t?” The further a webcomicker goes down that road, the further it takes him away from what we already know as comics, but it does bring them closer to creating something with a value of it’s own, that could play to a wide audience. And it can still be good comics.
JB Wrote:
How long do you thing the sequential panel form
will survive in a digital format? We are already seeing various kinds
of animation, limited and otherwise, applied to comics for the digital
market. People don't much want to look at still pictures on a screen,
it seems. Especially not when those still pictures have to compete with
so much that isn't stil!
I think it could survive intact, and I think readers want it to stay intact. For me, once you add animation it's not a comic anymore. It becomes something else. The reader should always have total control over the pace at which they're reading.
There are lots of other things that digital delivery and the web offer to sequential art that don't involve animating stuff. Making it behave like rich media by encouraging the user to interact, reformatting the way the "page" looks so it works on your monitor or mobile device (or moving to a series of panels rather than a "page"), adding layers of content that are easily accessible via hyperlinks, perhaps even music to accompany it...
it seems like the part of the conversation involving what could be done creatively to make digital comics great and unique (and yet still comics) was skipped a few years back, and everyone went straight to "how to monetize it".
Edited by me to fix some formatting, some stuff was bolded that shouldn't have been...
Edited by Dale Ingram on 23 June 2009 at 12:26pm
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Arc Carlton
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OK John. I remember there was an Eagle publication too. Maybe with Dan Dare stories? Or maybe other sci fi stories.
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John Peter Britton
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Arc it was nothing like the original Eagle from the 1950's.
Edited by John Peter Britton on 23 June 2009 at 1:48pm
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Arc Carlton
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Oh OK. I remember I had other British publications besides 2000AD. Can't remember the names, though.
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Andrew W. Farago
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John Byrne on the Dick Tracy daily would be so cool... I think there are a
handful of the adventure strips hanging on now, and it would be fun to see
JB take the reins on something like that, or Buck Rogers, or Flash Gordon.
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John Byrne
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For me, once you add animation it's not a comic anymore.
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Which is my point.
For comics to go digital and remain comics in any recognizable way would make about as much sense as their clinging to their 10¢ cover price when other magazines started to up their prices. If comics are to march boldly into the 21st Century, they will soon cease to be comics as we know them.
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John Byrne
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John: Can I ask why did you decline that offer?
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One More Time: PLEASE identify the "John" you are talking to. I just scrolled
up and down this thread trying to figure out what "offer" I had declined.
This goes for everyone, and, indeed, every name that is common to more
than one member.
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