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Martin Redmond Byrne Robotics Member

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If technology makes reading "printed" material in a digital format as easy as listening to music on an iPod, I wonder if you'd change your mind.
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Imo, print's still way better quality than a computer screen, but then again, plenty of people seem happy paying for a record compressed to mp3. Personally, I'll always favor a printed copy even if you give me a comic for free online.
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John OConnor Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 9:59am | IP Logged | 2
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JB -- with your blurb about the strips; ever wished you had
gone that route?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 10:20am | IP Logged | 3
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If technology makes reading "printed" material in a digital format as easy as
listening to music on an iPod, I wonder if you'd change your mind.
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Is listening to music on an iPod the same experience as going to a concert
for a live performance?
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Sean Blythe Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 10:21am | IP Logged | 4
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Imo, print's still way better quality than a computer screen, but then
again, plenty of people seem happy paying for a record compressed to
mp3. Personally, I'll always favor a printed copy even if you give me a
comic for free online.
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Have you seen the Kindle? Their "digital ink" technology is remarkable,
and it's in nascent form. Imagine how good that's going to look in a
couple of years.
Your comment about mp3 is very much what I'm talking about here. Hard
drives are getting big enough and cheap enough that compression isn't
really the issue it was in 2001 (and, by the way, compression itself has
gotten a lot better than MP3.) One could very easily have an
uncompressed music library on a hard drive.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 10:24am | IP Logged | 5
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…about the strips; ever wished you had gone that route?•• It's not an either/or, really. Plenty of strip folk have come into comicbooks (especially when the money was good!), and comicbook folk have done strips. Paul Kupperberg was reminiscing the other day about his time writing the SUPERMAN newspaper strip, as well as a few others. We got to talking about which strips we would most like to do, writing for him, writing and drawing for me, if offered.* I decided mine would be DICK TRACY.
* This, of course, assumes being able to do the strips the "old fashioned way". Working on a strip like TRACY with all the modern restrictions would be painful!
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Mike O'Brien Byrne Robotics Member
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You know what? I don't think that an iPod reference is a good one - I'm not against new technology at all - in fact, I'm pretty thrilled with the current advances, but... like... iPods and MP3s were the next logical step from portable personal cd players and the walkmen before that and transistor radios etc.
Applying comics to that is like using steak to make a fruit pie.
Having said that, the Kindle is worth considering. Not sure how that fits into the mix yet....
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Sean Blythe Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 11:03am | IP Logged | 7
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If technology makes reading "printed" material in a digital format as
easy as
listening to music on an iPod, I wonder if you'd change your mind.
••
Is listening to music on an iPod the same experience as going to a concert
for a live performance?
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No. Just like watching a DVD will never replace going to a theater and
watching with a crowd. Just like waiting the whole summer to find out
what happens to Mulder and Scully can't be replaced by popping in
Season 2, Disc 1. But watching a movie on DVD, a series as part of a
boxed set, or listening to recorded music on an iPod can still be an
enjoyable experience -- and, experience aside, good movies are still
good movies, good shows are still good shows, and good music is still
good music. I never heard The Beatles live in Hamburg in 1961. That
would have been a better experience than anything I can imagine. That
doesn't mean I can't ever listen to The Beatles, does it?
I get that comics have their own set of factors that make the experience a
cherished one. I have a locally owned drug store with a spinner rack in
my past, too. I get it. I'm not here to argue that digital comics won't be
different. I reject, however, the notion that the digital method of
distribution and presentation is ipso facto bad and invalidating.
I'm seriously not trying to stir up trouble. I just think that digital comics
have potential, and I believe that telling stories through still drawings and
word balloons is an inherently simple, appealing and enduing art form.
And I was hoping that a guy whose stuff looks
this good on a 2009 computer monitor would be excited
about what 2011 might hold.
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Andrew Goletz Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 11:28am | IP Logged | 8
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QUOTE:
Andrew: Never's a long time. Are you talking about digital comics the way you read them now, or the way you'll be able to read them in a year or so? If technology makes reading "printed" material in a digital format as easy as listening to music on an iPod, I wonder if you'd change your mind. |
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I'm only 35 but I am very stubborn in a lot of ways when it comes to tech. I don't have an iPod and have no interest in getting one. I like the feel of the dopey DJs bantering and insipid commercials that go with the music. Even on satelite radio (which I did get) you still have a feel like it's a radio station and not a high tech mix tape.
I want to hold the comic in my hand and flip the pages, not press a button or scroll the screen or whatever. Not too familiar with the Kindle so I can't comment on it but my preference for reading is from a piece of paper in a book, not a screen (message boards aside)
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Arc Carlton Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 13 April 2009 Location: Peru Posts: 3493
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 9
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Over here in England there is not much in the way of English comics
it's so sad to see the shelves filled with crap comics that are filled
with toys and sweets! ___________________
John, at least you still have 2000AD over there.
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John Peter Britton Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 11:41am | IP Logged | 10
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Yeh 2000AD never liked it when i could have worked for IPC years ago!
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Arc Carlton Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 11:49am | IP Logged | 11
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Really? I know 2000AD it's not what it used to be, but I have a lot of late 70s, early 80s 2000AD progs and I love them.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 23 June 2009 at 11:49am | IP Logged | 12
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Just like watching a DVD will never replace going to a theater and watching with a crowd. Just like waiting the whole summer to find out what happens to Mulder and Scully can't be replaced by popping in Season 2, Disc 1. But watching a movie on DVD, a series as part of a boxed set, or listening to recorded music on an iPod can still be an enjoyable experience…•• But not the same experience. Which is why DVDs have not replaced movies. They are not the "future" of movies. They run alongside, as a kind of aftermarket. The "digital revolution" is being talked of as the future of comics. But it's really something else entirely.
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