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Patrick Mallon Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 1:27pm | IP Logged | 1
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Sub-continent Indians are considered Pacific
Islanders, not Asian.
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Source this, please?
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I'll have to ask my wife. We recently had a conversation about this, and that is what she told me.
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Patrick Mallon Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 1:29pm | IP Logged | 2
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Also, please define "sub-continent Indian."
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Peoples native to the sub-continent known as India.
Edited by Patrick Mallon on 01 September 2006 at 1:30pm
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Derek Cavin Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 1:30pm | IP Logged | 3
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Other races have changed the way they describe themselves but whites haven't...
Being white, I don't know if white people (Caucasians, etc.) are really interested in changing or even labelling themselves to begin with.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | 4
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QUOTE:
Also, please define "sub-continent Indian."
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Peoples native to the sub-continent known as India. |
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Right. I realized what a silly question it was just after I posted it but was too late to edit it.
Anyway, being from that sub-continent myself, I have my doubts about Indians being considered 'Pacific Islanders'.
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 01 September 2006 at 1:43pm
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Ian M. Palmer Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 2:12pm | IP Logged | 5
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You think any of that's weird, try "British English" (for the English language, meaning "English" instead of "American English").
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Dan Bowen Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 6
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It's just linguists being linguists, Ian.
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Mike Norris Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 3:12pm | IP Logged | 7
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Since India is niether an island nor in the Pacific I too am curious how an Indian can be a Pacific Islander.
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Josh Goldberg Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 4:35pm | IP Logged | 8
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Patrick Mallon wrote: "Sub-continent Indians are considered Pacific Islanders, not Asian."
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By whom? One of the things that was drilled into us in during training for the 2000 Census was that what was important was what the respondents considered themselves, not what we, the enumerators (or anyone else) considered them to be. If a "Sub-continent Indian" insisted on identifying himself as "Asian", I was obligated to mark him down as such, even if I personally would've called him a "Pacific Islander". The issue was how the respondents identified themselves.
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Josh Goldberg Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 9
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By the way, there were a lot of "Indians" (quote/unquote) in the area I enumerated, and they pretty much identified themselves as "Asian Indian", to the best of my memory.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 4:45pm | IP Logged | 10
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Beyond that, I don't see how the connection can be made between Pacific Islanders (i.e. inhabitants of Oceania) and people from the sub-continent of India.
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Patrick Mallon Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 4:51pm | IP Logged | 11
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Like I said, I need to ask the wife where she got her info from...
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Mike Norris Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 01 September 2006 at 7:44pm | IP Logged | 12
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Just a wild guess, but perhaps she's heard of the theory that some Native American tribes (aka Indians) migrated to the Americas from the Pacific Islands. At least I thinks thats a theory that was once under discussion.
Why couldn't Columbus call the natives something else!!!!??? And why did it stick even though it was so wrong!!!!!!???
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