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John Byrne
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Hit a complex point in 14. Lots of threads coming together. So I decided to clear my brain and jump ahead to 15 for a bit. Ended up finishing the whole issue. Three pages a day!Something to be said for being stuck at home!
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Paul Wills
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Three pages a day is insane! You haven't lost speed even though it seems you're doing a bit more with shading and detail.
Edited by Paul Wills on 21 May 2020 at 12:12pm
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Michael Genitempo
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I didn't say anything about an "omission".
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Well, the advice might apply to whatever it is you had forgotten that was very important, in that you might be able to go back and add or alter something in previous issues in support of it... depending how far reaching the forget was...
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James Johnson
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I guess when you don't have corporate editors dictating, you are free to go about your own pace.
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John Byrne
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Three a day used to be my standard. Back in the original run on X-MEN I’d start at 8, get two pages penciled by noon, and get back to the drawingboard for a 1 to 4 shift that produced a single page. (Yes, I slowed down in the afternoon!)
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Brian Miller
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You should've had that 2 pm Dr Pepper.
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John Byrne
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I was still in Canada then. The good Doctor was not available where I lived!
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Steven Queen
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That image of the left-most panel has got to be the single most dynamically powerful display of Cyclops' power ever put to paper.
...and a resounding "yes" to the earlier poster who said your Scott Summers is showing a most awesome homage to Neal Adams'.
Bravo! I adore today's page.
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No Dr Pepper in Canada? Good lord!
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Peter Martin
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Great idea to have that optic blast running down the whole of the left of the page in an open panel. Gives the blast space to breathe.
The Dr Pepper talk seems apt. Mess with Phoenix/What's the worst that could happen?
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Tim O Neill
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Joel: "When would they have had any debate? The Greys didn't take her to the
X-Men. When Jean was found, she was found by Cyclops and Wolverine. So of
course those two would have taken her back to the mansion given her startling
condition. Presumably they then alerted the Greys to what was going on with
her and had them come over to the mansion."
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That's a good point, Joel - they would have had little choice. When I wrote my
comments, I was thinking the Greys would have had the option to keep her
there or pull her out when they arrived. She is technically still disabled, so
Jean is under their care just as when she was as a kid. But now that you point
it out, their hand is kind of forced since the X-Men found her and they were
likely already running tests when the Greys arrived.
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Nathan, reading through the scenes again, I think you are spot on. Elaine is
directly stating her blame and feelings more that I recalled. It's all there - her
feelings were even harder than I remembered. What I was keying off is also
there - it's not a direct statement, but it's the Greys being grabbed by the
Sentinel, who starts starts to fly away with them. Wonder Man is able to shake
them loose in the air, but he isn't able to grab them - they fall a signifiant
distance before Vision catches them.
That's the traumatic experience that I thought would turn Elaine to be more
accepting after they survived, but that isn't there in the book. I think I filled in
more on my own! I like to think I know this part of the Marvel Universe, but this
series keeps zigging and zagging into areas I don't expect.
One interesting thing to note - it's two Avengers who save the Greys. They
scream for Wolverine's help, but the screams tip off the Sentinel and he
doesn't make a dent. So the Greys may have even more reason to hate the X-
Men since they had nothing to do with their rescue!
I'm still not fully seeing how they would go to Reed Richards. I think I see your
point - our personal experience would lead us to change doctors. But this is
such a unique situation that they would defer to the authority on mutants and
their negative feelings would be swept aside. It is complex - I don't know what
will happen.
I so appreciate your response - I really enjoy deep dives into these stories, and
it's fun to go back and take a look at the quieter moments. I confess my
strongest memories of these scenes is the epic fights and the thrill of the
brawl, but these emotional moments are such an essential part of good comic
books.
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