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Donald Miller
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While I agree with you on the main thrust of your post Chris, I have to take exception to reference to BIG as an example, The "comic" you are referring to was an interactive choose your own adventure type comic game.(very forward thinking for it's time and indicitive of things to come) and the person who said it was stupid was the antagonist who did not understand kids to begin with.
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Martin Redmond
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I think european publishers print on gloss now too. Of course, some of the magazines were on glossy paper decades before the americans got gloss stock, if I recall. I've never been crazy about it.
Edited by Martin Redmond on 02 February 2009 at 11:42am
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Thanos Kollias
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My experience is that the publishers want good quality paper. Of course, over here they are publishing "albums" (graphic novels, for you guys). The books get so expensive as the number of printed copies go down, that direct sales is the only viable way to go.
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Paulo Pereira
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I don't care for gloss paper at all. I'd like to be able to read a comic without it blinding me.
If the publishers want to get away from newsprint, aren't there better alternatives to gloss stock?
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Donald Miller
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It's funny about the paper, I for one never felt that the newsprint stock was bad.
When they started making forays in glossy paper I did not like it all that much. I think it is funny that paper is discussed as if it has to be Super high gloss magazine stock or newsprint as if there are no options in between. I for one would welcome a comic that had newsprint stock on recycled paper.
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John Byrne
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The Jack Kirby FOURTH WORLD collections have really excellent paper and
printing. They look like real comic books --- only better!
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Donald Miller
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That's what I'm talking about, a little brighter white and a little heavier stock than newsprint but not as heavy or slick as magazine.
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Paulo Pereira
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I don't mind newsprint, in fact I rather prefer it. But I'd certainly appreciate a quality alternative that didn't involve glare.
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Trevor Smith
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**But I'd certainly appreciate a quality alternative
that didn't involve glare.**
Baxter stock...I loved that stuff when the Teen Titans
and Legion series switched to it way back when. The
Kirby Fourth World volumes weren't quite as heavy as
Baxter, but like JB, I thought it was *way* better than
what's on the stands now, and I'd love to see the
monthlies switch to it.
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Eric Kleefeld
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The question has to be how to sell in the mass-market outlets of today: Borders and Barnes & Noble.
The newsstand doesn't really exist anymore, and the DSM has all the problems that have already been discussed. But the chain bookstore is really where it's at now.
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Brad Brickley
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I would shoot for Wal-Mart as a distributer if it was me. They are every where and I've seen plenty of parents and kids all over the place. Wal-Mart for all it's faults can sell plenty.
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Brad Brickley
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Oh yea, I like a flat paper, like JB said those Kirby books looked and felt right.
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