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Andrew Bitner
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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 8:46am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

I figure Doom has a trick up his sleeve, given his pleasure at seeing "the full team" arriving-- and it's not the Doombots throwing plasma bolts at Sue's forcefield.
Love the old "flying bathtub" too-- to me, that'll always be the Fantasticar--as well as Spider-Man's "dropping in" in the last panel.
Monday feels like a long way away.
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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 9:05am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

OH, by the way... Sue in a ponytail is one of the best visual and practical things that JB added to the Fantastic Four

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Based on the number of fans who specifically requested this look in commission pieces, I’d say you are far from alone in that opinion!

(Getting married in 1980 led to me being exposed to a lot of day-to-day female activity that would not otherwise have occurred to me. The pony tail was one such.)

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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 3 post reply

Count me among those who dig the FF's choice of "flying bathtub" transportation.
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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 9:28am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

This is going to top the Sentinel team-up fight, I can just feel it.
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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 2:05pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

It just hit me - we're not getting resolution to this story in the next few pages. We're going to have to wait AN ENTIRE MONTH for new pages. A month! Like regular people!
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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 2:26pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

And even then, only SOME resolution.

BWAH HA HA HA HA!!!!

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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 2:27pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

What issue would this be if it were part of the original run?
I've lost track of which issue this series was supposed to start after.


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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 2:35pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

ELSEWHEN 1 sorta kinda maybe occupies the same space as UNCANNY 138—tho only sorta kinda since we had planned the all flashbacks issue even if Jean had not died. I guess it would take place between the X-Men returning to Earth and them heading off to the Savage Land.

So I guess that would make the current issue an approximation of 169….?

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Posted: 25 February 2022 at 3:09pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply


And even then, only SOME resolution.

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GREAT!! I hope you keep us here for the rest of our lives... or until Putin decides otherwise.
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@Wallace Sellars ------

Agreed in terms of Colossus' back-and-forth transformation ability.
But I always thought his main selling point in contrast to the other big toughs was his durability.
Thing might be a little stronger, but Colossus' body can take more damage ala the elements, blunt trauma, beam energy, concussive whammies, etc.

I only read Secret Wars once (back when it first came out & I was in my teens, so I may have this wrong due to time and the effects of old-man-brain), but I vaguely remember something about Doom setting off some kind of explosion in the superheroes' camp, and the only things left that weren't completely atomized were Cap's shield and Colossus' dead (armored) body.  So his overall durability sets him a few notches above the majority of other Marvel strongmen.

This puts me in mind of one of the other age-old debates --- whether or not Wolverine could cut through Colossus.

I think the definitive, canonized proof is right there on the cover of UNCANNY #115  ---  he can scrape him and set off a few metal-on-metal sparks, but he doesn't have the strength to actually slice through him.   Doc Sampson or Thing with adamantium claws might be able to ---  (much like JB's take on Thor/Superman -- regular guys/sledgehammer) ---  but the Wolverine/Colossus strength ratio is probably akin to a 5 year old with a straight razor trying to cut through a 25 year old man; he has neither the strength nor the time to sit there and saw through him without Colossus smacking him.

Better not tell that to some current writer/artists, though.   They seem to get off on drawing Wolverine cutting through Colossus with BLOOD spurting out...  as if they somehow forgot (or never knew) that Colossus is solid steel.

They also seem to get him confused with Luke Cage and the whole "steel skin" baloney.

There should be some sort of prerequisite in comics that before you're allowed to write for the comic, you should know the characters.
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It used to always confuse me when I saw the likes of Colossus, Iceman, or the Human Torch passed out in their "empowered" state (beyond the obvious appeal of a jazzy cover). 
Isn't that a willful transformation enacted by their conscious effort?  No consciousness, no power. < id="protanopia"> < id="deuteranopia"> < id="tritanopia">
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If it’s a willful transformation, wouldn’t they have to will themselves back to
normal?
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