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Brad Brickley
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| Posted: February 07 2010 at 5:10pm | IP Logged | 1
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Always been fond of the Vulture, but doesn't look right to me with the head cover. I wouldn't mind that on another character, but Vulture looks best bald and old.
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Pascal LISE
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| Posted: February 07 2010 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | 2
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I would go for the bald one if he was leaner.
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James Malone
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| Posted: February 07 2010 at 8:09pm | IP Logged | 3
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agreed, the vulture needs to be bony and almost sickly looking... same thing with Cyclops... stop making them all look like body builders!
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Brad Brickley
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| Posted: February 07 2010 at 9:28pm | IP Logged | 4
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Good points, Mr. Toomes is looking a little too buff. One of the cool things for me about the Vulture was seeing this old sickly looking man giving Spider-Man a good licking.
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Pablo Lainez
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While I think the Bowen statues are top notch, I'm finding more and more ridiculous how all their figures have athletic proportions and muscles covering every square inch of their bodies. I agree with you guys, The Vulture is one of the most flagrant examples, spoiling an otherwise tremendous sculpture (pose, paint job and base).
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John Byrne
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| Posted: February 08 2010 at 7:35am | IP Logged | 6
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One of the cool things for me about the Vulture was seeing this old sickly looking man giving Spider-Man a good licking.•• Not sure whose version of the Vulture you guys are looking at! Ditko's original model was bald and ugly, but he was far from "sickly". 
As a kid. reading those comics in initial release, I didn't even get the sense he was OLD. Just, as noted, bald and ugly! After all, the notion of an OLD guy beating up Spider-Man seemed decidedly counter-intuitive. From what I can see in that image (it's very dark on my monitor), the bald version by Bowen seems spot on. And the Vulture in the cap is, of course, a DIFFERENT GUY.
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Brad Brickley
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| Posted: February 08 2010 at 9:44am | IP Logged | 7
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You're right JB, sickly wasn't the right word. As a kid I seem to remember seeing him hunched over and with his skinny neck and wrinkly bald head made him in my young mind old.
As for the Vulture with the head gear, I hadn't realized there was a different one. I knew at one point he was made younger.
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John Byrne
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The "hunched over" look you're remembering is the mechanism on his back that worked his wings, visible in that first Ditko cover.
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Pascal LISE
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| Posted: February 08 2010 at 12:55pm | IP Logged | 9
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Not sickly but definitely leaner.
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John Peter Britton
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This is as i remember him by John Romita after the Steve Ditko version way back in the 1960's.
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John Peter Britton
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Joe Hollon
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One of my earliest exposures to Spider-Man comics was the original Marvel Masterworks volume when I was about nine years old (thanks mom and dad!). Reading those first ten issues as a nine year old, the Vulture was the first villain that really stood out to me as a threat to Spider-Man! Go read those first two appearances! Ditko made Mr. Toomes a serious villain to reckon with!
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