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Al Burr
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In BATMAN 251, in a tale entitled "The Joker's Five Way Revenge", Neal Adams gave us what became, instantly, one of the most iconic and imitated shots of the Batman ever put on paper. (And this despite someone in the production department "fixing" Neal's drawing, and adding in, clumsily, the utility belt the Joker had taken from Batman several pages earlier.)

Note that this Batman is lean and trim, his face narrow and lantern jawed. Note that his eyes are not visible, and that his cape is smooth and unwrinkled, as are his gloves and boots. (Even that badly drawn utility belt is as it was in the comics for decades -- slender phials from which Batman drew all manner of amazing stuff, not the pouches we first saw sported by Adam West.)

Yet, drawn in Neal's brilliant photo-realistic style, this was one of the most believable images of Batman we, the readers, had ever seen. This looked, not like Batman would look, but like Batman should look.

Too many artists today have forgotten this. Forgotten that comics are all about verisimilitude, not tracing photographs.

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jose alicea
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1. the appearance or semblance of truth; likelihood; probability: The play lacked verisimilitude.
2. something, as an assertion, having merely the appearance of truth.


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Keith Thomas
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Fat guy.

LOL Damn you Alex Ross




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John Peter Britton
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They all look fat but i still think it's great artwork nice work from a fine artist!
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Flavio Sapha
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I loved Ross's Marvels, but his DC stuff  looks kitsch. 
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Forager takes his place on my New Gods shelf:


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… it's great artwork …

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If you don't mind that they are stepping on each other's feet.

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John Peter Britton
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Yes i agree but it's still fine work !
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… it's still fine work !

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Don't want to start a whole thread drift on this, but Wow! Your definition of "fine" must be very different from mine!

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Michael Thompson
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They appear to be stepping on each other's feet because they were originally drawn as individual characters, not as a group. DC photoshopped the images together poorly.
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John Peter Britton
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Spot on Michael they were as you say. And yes JB we all see things differently!
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