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Stéphane Garrelie Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: August 05 2005 Location: France Posts: 4279
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Posted: August 24 2025 at 2:54pm | IP Logged | 1
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France. And that's how we answer this kind of thing.Sometime iimperfectly, but if we may disagree with the law, it is still something clear to argue about, and the rule to follow as long as it stands.
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Robin Taylor Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: April 16 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1284
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Posted: August 25 2025 at 3:26pm | IP Logged | 2
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Germany seems to have a handle on how to handle specific symbols of hat. Here in Canada we have hate speech laws that I don't think go far enough but they do exist.
Edited by Robin Taylor on August 25 2025 at 3:27pm
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: April 16 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 1614
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Posted: August 27 2025 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 3
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Banning books for spreading hate depends on the views of groups, large or small, with specific leanings (left, right, center, etc.), so we shouldn't fall for those games.
Let's assume the ban is successful and hate speech ceases to exist... The human mind in society is insatiable; more quickly than immediately, hate would be found in other discourses; humans can't stop their fixation on limiting themselves in everything.
Furthermore, the true generators of hate would be generating subtleties, and no one would discover them until it was too late. Freedom of expression allows us to know the intentions (whether they lie is another matter) of people and their twisted minds.
I prefer to stay away from a person who openly says unpleasant things than to find out too late.
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Steve Coates Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: November 17 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 854
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Posted: August 27 2025 at 3:19pm | IP Logged | 4
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I prefer not to limit freedom of expression. It is much easier to identify the fools.
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Victor Manuel Fernandez Patiño Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: April 16 2004 Location: Mexico Posts: 1614
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Posted: August 27 2025 at 3:44pm | IP Logged | 5
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"Doing it for the good of others" is a well-worn excuse. What kind of hysterical person* tries to control everything?
Parents deciding to prohibit certain printed materials from their children seems normal to me. In certain religious communities, this is done with materials foreign to their beliefs. But for certain groups to decide for the rest of humanity, whether through laws or the power of social media, seems a great injustice to me.
*Understanding the concept of a hysterical person as someone who thinks they know what others need, but in the process completely ignores their own needs and problems.
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Brad Monje Byrne Robotics Member
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Joined: April 16 2004 Location: United States Posts: 351
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Posted: August 28 2025 at 7:32pm | IP Logged | 6
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My son is 17 years old now, but a few years ago, lists of banned books were usually what he would use as a guide for what to go out and find to read. I know that he has read a coupld from that list.
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Rick Whiting Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: April 22 2004 Posts: 2254
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Posted: August 28 2025 at 11:59pm | IP Logged | 7
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I'm black/African American and I'm a firm believer that ALL speech should be protected. Especially hate speech, regardless of how disgusting and hateful said hate speech may be. Banning hate speech would be a perfect example of paving the road to hell with good intentions. It oppresses a person's right to voice their opinions and it also causes an increase in idiotic and untrue conspiracy theories about things that are truthful.
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