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Tshombe K. Hamilton
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| Posted: 09 August 2022 at 9:35pm | IP Logged | 1
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You don’t know what—or who—is down that hole!-------- Even better JB...keep the surprises coming....you really don't realize how we have been starving for your work these last couple of years...
These new creators have no sense of subplots or foreshadowing. All these clowns know how to do is just deconstruct stuff without decontructing to make better
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John Northey
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 5:26am | IP Logged | 2
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IMO the people making him for the movies need to talk to JB about how to do Dr. Doom right - be it visual and/or personality wise. Given the details I see on the page for Dr Doom everytime he is on a page I suspect Mr. Byrne loves doing him more than most.
As to the end of Elseworlds - I would love text covering the concepts that died on the vine. Not as nice as getting the issues of course, but far better than nothing which is the only other alternative. Well, we could all guess at it but that'd get silly pretty quick.
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Dean Munday
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 11:12am | IP Logged | 3
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Wow - now that is SOME laboratory!
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Richard Stevens
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 2:30pm | IP Logged | 4
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If anyone missed the details and wondered which Magneto still lives in this universe... I think it's pretty darn clear. He may have fought the FF before, but he hasn't fought "our" *Byrne* FF.
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Paul Wills
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | 5
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'sfunny - I do generally think of the FF as John Byrne's Fantastic Four. I'm sure the generation before me, it was Stan Lee and Jack Kirby's FF. But whenever the Fantastic Four come to my mind, it is always associated with Byrne's imprint. It's what I grew up on!
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 6
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My own Fantastic Four of course begins with Kirby--but not the Kirby most of you would think of. Starting with FF5 and ending with FF32, I departed a wee while before Sinnott arrived (not counting 5 and a little bit of 6), so my strongest memories of the characters and stories connect with a jumble of inkers from Ayers to Stone to "Bell". I came to the definitive Kirby FF as back issues, once I had started actively pursuing a career in comics. (Half a century ago! Oy!!)When I returned to reading comings in the early Seventies, my first association with the FF was mostly centered around Rich Buckler--and yet I stayed!
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Steven Queen
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 4:56pm | IP Logged | 7
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The FF vs. Magneto --- very excited to see that.
Again, it was so clever how you disposed of the "Freedom Fighter" Magneto and returned him to proper villainy.
Many thanks for BAMF-ing these pages into existence.
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Wallace Sellars
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 7:25pm | IP Logged | 8
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It's always a treat seeing JB handle my favorite superhero team!
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Wallace Sellars
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 7:28pm | IP Logged | 9
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Speaking of the FF...
When you draw Jim Hammond and Johnny Storm in their Human Torch forms, is there anything other than making Jim "faceless" you do to distinguish between the two of them?
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Andrew Bitner
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| Posted: 10 August 2022 at 10:31pm | IP Logged | 10
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Magneto should be careful-- he's never fought THIS FF before either. Having experience with one version of the team doesn't mean he's ready for all versions.But just try telling that to a megalomaniac supervillain...
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 11 August 2022 at 12:08am | IP Logged | 11
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QUOTE:
| You don’t know what—or who—is down that hole! |
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Um, can I hope for... Fin Fang Foom maybe?
(not meant to incite actual speculations)
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 11 August 2022 at 12:10am
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Dean Munday
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| Posted: 11 August 2022 at 10:39am | IP Logged | 12
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"I might have thrown Kurt down TOO deep a hole!"
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One thing Marvel has taught us over decades is that there is never a hole too big that any character can not return from. That policy has diminished the impact of every character's ongoing saga*. But as no Marvel characters have ongoing 'sagas' anymore (just re-launched, renumbered, re-costumed, re-hashes of previous ideas) it's a moot point. Plus this platform is mercifully not beholden to any established Marvel approach, even if it did mean my favourite X-Man bought the farm.
*Except for the villains. That's kind of their 'schtick', returning from certain doom in a shock reprise every few issues! ;-)
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