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Steven Queen
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 11:25am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

Not only is the art amazing on today's page, but the dialog is so wonderfully ominous. There is so much gravitas to Doom, that Magneto comes across oafish by comparison. Bravo.
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 11:43am | IP Logged | 2 post reply

Doom is such fun to write. I take my natural pomposity and turn it up to 11.
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William A Lancellotta
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 12:03pm | IP Logged | 3 post reply

JB: "I take my natural pomposity and turn it up to 11".

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Okay, in addition to this being very funny, is this something you often do? I mean, imagine yourself as the characters as you write them. If so, are there some characters that are easy to "act" and some that give you particular difficulty in finding their voices?
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 4 post reply

I often look for some kind of shared attitudes in the characters I write, but truth to tell it’s often more fun to write characters who are very different from me.
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 12:33pm | IP Logged | 5 post reply

Love seeing Doom and having Magneto know that he is out of his league here.  Need to go back and re-read the old stories to see if any hints were left about how Magneto handled his Doom.  I figure that Doom would be royally annoyed at Magneto for killing his Richards - that is Dooms right and no one else's after all.  Maybe it was covered way back in that story and I'm forgetting.

Doom is basically what many make Batman into - give him time and he'll plan his way to do anything, except Doom has already done that via his original writer/artist when Lee/Kirby had him steal the Silver Surfer's powers.  Even if it did look ridiculous.  Doom on a surfboard - ugh, just too silly and belonged only in Not Brand Echh imo.
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Jason K Fulton
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 12:46pm | IP Logged | 6 post reply

If I was a comic book writer, I think I'd just have Dr Doom in every issue. This is probably one of the reasons WHY I'm not a comic book writer...
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 12:47pm | IP Logged | 7 post reply

Doom is basically what many make Batman into - give him time and he'll plan his way to do anything, except Doom has already done that via his original writer/artist when Lee/Kirby had him steal the Silver Surfer's powers. Even if it did look ridiculous. Doom on a surfboard - ugh, just too silly and belonged only in Not Brand Echh imo.

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We’ll have to agree you’re wrong.

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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 1:16pm | IP Logged | 8 post reply

"We’ll have to agree you’re wrong."

Ha! :P
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 2:39pm | IP Logged | 9 post reply

John, didn't you once (or twice) say that Sue Storm and
Heather Hudson spoke with "your voice" when you were
writing them, or something like that?

Regardless, this is simply too much to handle.
Wolverine's origin is more than enough, but then we get
the return of Phoenix AND Doom in all his menacing glory.

Early in the run, we thought we knew what to expect.
Even with Wolverine's origin, we know enough about John's
original plans to watch them play out, but with Phoenix
and Doom, I don't know what is going on...

And I like it :-)

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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 3:13pm | IP Logged | 10 post reply

JB’s “natural” pomposity turned up to 11would have made him a great Pro
Wrestler. I always loved the overly-intelligent snobby condescending heels
as a kid. Hell, I still do! Did anyone SEE Becky Lynch last night!!??😍😍😍
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | 11 post reply

I do really love the scar tissue JB puts under Doom's eyes.

With those large eyeholes and the "eyebrow mantle" over them, Doom's face is incredibly expressive for someone whose face is completely covered by steel.  In contrast it's usually very hard to make Iron Man's face expressive if the artist doesn't magically curve the eye and mouth slots.  (I should add Spider-Man too, but I'm so use to his mask's eyes growing and shrinking to indicate surprise or shock, that it seems natural to me in the way Iron Man's does not.)

I was initially surprised that the second doctor thinks Wolverine is such a weapon that it will give Canada a leading role in a world where Thor, the FF, Dr Doom, etc. is out there.  But then I remember that this time period should be "before" Marvel Time - FF, Doom, Thor, etc. haven't appeared yet.
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Posted: 22 November 2021 at 4:00pm | IP Logged | 12 post reply

Chris's comment reminds me - in the ELSEWHEN-verse, did the LOST GENERATION characters "happen"?
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