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Andrew Bitner
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JB: I think their reasoning behind putting him in a wheelchair was to prevent him from being the quick and easy solution to every story, but they had to keep pushing him further and further back to allow the X-Men to be the real stars of their own book.
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That's a serious challenge for any writer: how do you keep the one character who is almost inarguably the MOST powerful from upstaging everyone else?
Edited by Andrew Bitner on 22 July 2021 at 8:08am
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Philippe Negrin
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Another lovely panel of Kitty "swimming underground". I can't get enough of that !
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Steven Queen
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| Posted: 22 July 2021 at 9:38am | IP Logged | 3
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Do you have any tips you'd care to share on how you draw hands so well?
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John Byrne
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Only one: practice!!(Al Milgrom had a good line, once upon a time. He said there’s no excuse for drawing hands badly, since most people have at least ONE on the end of each arm.)
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Steven Queen
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Al makes a good point! :)
Let me try a different approach to get inside your exceptionally skilled noggin: do you (still?) think about individual bones and sub-dermal anatomy much when drawing?
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 22 July 2021 at 10:26am | IP Logged | 6
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Yes and no. I mean, it’s been a long time, and much of what I do is instinct. There were a couple of things I learned in College, plus a lot of years of looking at Neal Adams and Gil Kane and Steve Ditko (among others) but it’s all subliminal at this point. (The two things learned in College were the ramp of tendons on the back of the hand, and the way the index, middle and ring fingers come straight out of the wrist with the thumb and little finger attached to each side.)
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Steven Queen
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Thank you!
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Joe Smith
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Easily the best X-Men run of all. Beyond enjoying this….I’m living it.
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Mark Haslett
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Mark: I was just looking at the “doing the inker’s job for him” style of pencils here and wondered...?
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JB: Can you simplify the question, Mark? I don’t follow you.
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I think I can-- We'll see!
My question is about how this project started.
I am supposing that drawing those first X-Men pages in the way you drew them helped "provoke" Elsewhen into being.
I should ask if that is correct?
If it is, I was wondering, would Elsewhen have happened if you had done that pencil exercise with a different set of characters?
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Daniel Gillotte
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Agreed Dave B- I see Neal Adams in the Thor face, too and I LOVE it and JB's version of Sif! So awesome.
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Wallace Sellars
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Today's page shows (again) how our host is able to draw multiple characters in his own style, yet keep them in character and on model. (I was thrown for just a second to see how much bigger Gladiator is than Iceman. Kalark is a big guy!)
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John Byrne
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…would Elsewhen have happened if you had done that pencil exercise with a different set of characters? •• There's a lot of emotional baggage attached to these characters. In some ways ELSEWHEN is as much an exorcism as an exercise. There's no other work I have done that might be likely to produce exactly the same results.
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