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Tom Perkowitz
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Posted: 17 July 2020 at 6:45am | IP Logged | 1 post reply

"Laced" was added (to placate Shooter) after I left. Therefore, in ELSEWHEN, not real.

Does this look "laced"?

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It looks like a forearm where all the bone have been surgically replaced by metal mechanical devices and -- despite the monochrome coloring that was not done by the guy who drew the pictures -- a humerus with three patches or metal plates.

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Wallace Sellars
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Kitty’s Crew is lucky Phoenix’s attention was drawn back to the surface!
That doesn’t bode well for Colossus, Professor X, Storm and the others
though. Night crawler’ s teleportation power sure would come in handy
right now.

Ah, well... Paging Cyclops!
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It looks like a forearm where all the bone have been surgically replaced by metal mechanical devices and -- despite the monochrome coloring that was not done by the guy who drew the pictures -- a humerus with three patches or metal plates.

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I see a humerus completely made of metal, as evidenced by the shadows and light reflection. Same with the skull.
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Michael Genitempo
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Posted: 17 July 2020 at 7:19am | IP Logged | 4 post reply

Does this look "laced"?
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I don't believe Peter or Ororo are wearing any "lace" };->

Actually, it does look like the whole forearm is metal with the housings to contain the metal claws that seemed to be the early conception pre "bone" claws...

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John Byrne
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Posted: 17 July 2020 at 7:25am | IP Logged | 5 post reply

I see a humerus completely made of metal, as evidenced by the shadows and light reflection. Same with the skull.

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Yup. Pretty simple, really. "Adamantium skeleton".

But Shooter had no qualms about forcing retcons, even before the term came into existence!

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..the whole forearm is metal with the housings to contain the metal claws that seemed to be the early conception pre "bone" claws...

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Depends on how "early" you want to be. Len Wein conceived the claws a telescoping out of the gloves. And Wolverine as 18 years old.

The first time he popped the claws without gloves on, it was something of a big deal!

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Posted: 17 July 2020 at 7:49am | IP Logged | 7 post reply

I rather wonder what Jahf can do against Dark Phoenix. I know he's indestructible, but all she needs to do is boost into orbit, or on a trajectory into the sun, and that's the end of that discussion.*

Or would Modt appear? Or the guardian who is a million times stronger and tougher than Jahf? It wasn't very clear in X-Men #108 how that worked.

And of course, the idea is to NOT out-shadow the X-Men in their own book. But even with the assistance of the Starjammers (tee hee), I'm not sure how the X-Men could physically defeat Dark Phoenix.

That might not be the point, certainly. Surviving with the whole team may be sufficient!

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I’m thinking back to the old MAD parody. Superduperman defeats Captain Marbles by tricking him into punching himself in the face. “Captain Marbles was defeated by the only one as powerful as he, he!”
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Eric Sofer
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Posted: 17 July 2020 at 8:55am | IP Logged | 9 post reply

Strength
Health
Aptitude
Zeal
Ox, Power of
Ox, Power of another
Money

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'Nuff said, Mr. Byrne.
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John Byrne
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We all know the X-Men HAVE TO win, right? Even in ELSEWHEN, where I can literally break the toys any way I want. Good must always triumph over evil, because it's nicer.

Which is not to say you will ALL be satisfied with my little "solution".

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Posted: 17 July 2020 at 10:30am | IP Logged | 11 post reply

Maybe Galactus will come along and "devour" the Phoenix,
and somehow that will restore... or... something?! GAH!

Byrne Unleashed is scary!
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It's fascinating to watch Dark Phoenix "thinking out loud" about how to
catch Wolverine.

I'm so used to Phoenix, the universally powerful force, being resurrected
again and again that I forgot how, as we actually last saw her, she was very
new, brash, wavering between human concerns and galactic prey.

This series is just wall-to-wall pleasure to the last micron. Has there ever
been anything like it?

Maybe the Bruce Springsteen/E-Street Band reunion is a distantly related
cousin? It's the only time I'm familiar with of an artistic endeavor being cut
off at its "prime" and then picked up again years later with the same, or
even more creative momentum. Maybe there are better examples, but this
is an extremely rare event. And the price of admission is so affordable!!
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